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Pekana makes good products for detox that I used at home with the bionic--iteres, renelix, a-hepat--these are for the lymph, kidney, and liver. Natural Healing House is where I get them--just google pekana and natural healing house.
I also used two products made by Heel--Hepar Compositum and Lymphomyosot, but they are pretty expensive compared to the Pekana products.
Dr. W had me take extra magnesium as well, so I did that when using the bionic at home, too.
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quote:Originally posted by sparkle7: There are stem cells in menstrual blood.
And toxins, from what I have heard.
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quote:Originally posted by hiker53: I also used two products made by Heel--Hepar Compositum and Lymphomyosot, but they are pretty expensive compared to the Pekana products.
Whew! I just used the Lymphomyosot the other day and it knocked me for a loop.
When my ND gave it to me, he told me to use it to massage into the skin on sore areas. But I saw on the bottle that you can take it orally and it gave directions on how much to take.
Holy shmoly!
I can hear my doctor now. "I said use it on your skin dummy!"
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quote:Originally posted by dan67: 17,
Are you saying the burbur hit you hard?
Also, how do I do castor oil packs over the liver? What materials / procedure? Thanks.
Dan, Six was right. I meant treating with nosodes hit me hard.
Don't get me wrong, it didn't put me on the couch or anything. I'm still doing laundry, making dinner, running kids around, running to the store. Nothing like before treatment.
I guess the trucks that hit me are getting much smaller but I forget how big they were before.
Burbur takes the edge off. It helps get rid of the toxins.
If you have questions that I don't answer on that thread, feel free to PM me.
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What is the purpose of the ozone therapy in all of this? And would it need to be done immediately following the photon treatment to make sense?
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I didn't have ozone therapy, but those who did had it right after photon therapy, but no, it doesn't have to be. The detox iv does.
Ozone is a heavy detox. My friend needed it for mold detox. My roommate over in Germany got it for viruses. I guess there are various uses of it. Dr. W didn't think I needed it.
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I'm not really sure I needed ozone therapy - I wasnt' sooo sick, not nearly like the other two people there with me.
But I did like the results - was running laps around my traveling friend.
Another purpose? It was not cheap (if you get my drift).
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I kind of wish I had had the ozone. I had mold exposure that I discovered a few weeks before leaving. I think it would have helped with that detox. As it was, I was happy with my progress, but am only now addressing the prior mold exposure .... I had been leaving well-enough alone.
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Yes, we're finishing mold remediation in our home right now. Hubby's replacing a bathroom floor (shower leaked) as I type.
We had 4 different types of bad mold test way high, mostly in the basement.
Maybe the ozone took care of my detoxing it? Guess I'll find out.
Don't know if you noticed it, Six, but there is a link on this thread (page 1 oe 2) that lists ozone therapists (put in your zip). So, apparently you could still get it if you wanted it without going to Germany.
What are you doing to address the exposure?
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You can do ozone easily for not much money in the USA, so I don't think missing it in Germany means its out of bounds now.
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re: quote: Originally posted by sparkle7: There are stem cells in menstrual blood. And toxins, from what I have heard.
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What kind of toxins?
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17 Hens, I took oregano oil and am now taking vitamin C. I feel that the oregano caused a big release in fungi based on symptoms. I felt horrible for a few days after taking it for two weeks, feel fine today.
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17 Hens, your mailbox is full
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Urgh. Cleaning it now.
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Wow, I made it through the whole post... It was like a great book I could not put it down.
Hen was one of the first people on this forum that comforted me in a time of need, I am so happy for you!! God is good!!
As for mold remediation has anyone looked into Austin Air? Austin Air My naturopath highly recommends them.
So, if I was to come across some money from a money tree and bought one of these.
Do you think detoxing in my infrared sauna would be sufficient enough? Or, would I need to look into other avenues?
I keep hearing about coffee enemas, but have no clue how they work It is not a video I would want to watch either...
Thanks in advance!!
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Congrats on making it through the thread!!!
I do have an air cleaner in my bedroom, but the thing with mold is, you have to remove the source .... and it can be even more complicated than that.
A sauna and coffee enemas are good, and I've done both (I have a sauna, and I used coffee enemas all through treatment). Neither will get rid of the mold in the body, but are good for other toxins.
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Ozone is supposed to get rid of mold. Bejoy used it to remediate her house after she sealed off the mold. You could probably use it internally to get rid of mold in the body, too.
Just a thought. I never tried it.
There are connections between cancer & fungus. People use baking soda for that. One doctor also injects baking soda solution into tumors & it's supposed to be successful.
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Hi,
I am interested in learning more but I just can't wrap my brain around to understand WHAT is it and how it helped you all.
Those who have gone to Germany could you please PM me, I want to hear the good, the bad and the ugly. I must explore all options! So thank you in advance you all!
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I would like to learn more also, did some searching last night and did not find a whole lot?
I would love to understand the specifics of the technology. I know light is used to work with the good healthy cells in your body.
Pricing including a good base for nosodes would be wonderful too.
Hen's video was helpful and getting a picture of how things worked. I don't understand how taping those tubes around your chest works though? If there is nothing inputted into your system how does any information or messages get received? Does the light ever pass through the tubes?
Sorry if those are dumb questions.. I actually have a computer sci degree, so I am technical but don't understand everything
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There is not a whole lot out there. I have been asked to turn my blog into a book, but honestly, I don't want to spend that much time going over what I went through, I'm past it.
Anyway, if you go to Oct 2008 of my blog and start at the last post and read forward, I explain in detail what the photon treatment is. All you need to read is October to read about the Germany trip, though I have documented everything I've done since returning.
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Sorry, guys, I don't have more time to write (crazy at our house right now) but the answers to all of your questions are on this thread. Read and reread?
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Come on Six write a book! You could do it like a whodunit. As you used deductive reason to snare the evil Moriarty, ooooops borrelia.
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I have only found like 3 other people who have gone through it on the internet and not much RECENT info. But I can't find much info on the impact long term?
Money aside, the prospect of getting better after a few sessions is very tempting. What I was hoping to find was more success stories considering how effective this treatment is, and I'm surprised I have only found 3!! Now I don't know what to think!
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Using the PE1, can I put some homeopathic drops in a vial and tape them to my solar plexus to have the same or even more powerful effect as ingesting the drops? For example, I've got a Lyme disease homeopathic formula that has some other co-infections included within. Can I photoon myself with it taped to my solar plexus instead of taking it under my tongue? How effective would that be?
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Better to tape it to the solar plexus than ingest it. I would never ingest a homeopathic solution of borrelia, bartonella, toxic metal etc.
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quote:Originally posted by lymie_in_md: Come on Six write a book! You could do it like a whodunit. As you used deductive reason to snare the evil Moriarty, ooooops borrelia.
I'm too busy to write a book. If the publisher still wants it, I might have a friend write it.
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quote:Originally posted by Lymic: Dear All,
Using the PE1, can I put some homeopathic drops in a vial and tape them to my solar plexus to have the same or even more powerful effect as ingesting the drops? For example, I've got a Lyme disease homeopathic formula that has some other co-infections included within. Can I photoon myself with it taped to my solar plexus instead of taking it under my tongue? How effective would that be?
Thank you!
Yes. I suggest taking the drops orally first to see how you react because once you use the Bionic with the homeopathic, you can't stop the reaction. It was interesting when I did "chemtox" with the Bionic .... I started releasing many drugs I had taken through treatment and got high from it (vicodin, norco, lyrica, lunesta, ambien, etc.). My daughter's boyfriend still talks about it ... :/
I'm talking about homeopathics, not nosodes. If it's really the lyme or a coinfection, I would not take it orally just as Hiker said.
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quote:Originally posted by scorpiogirl: I have only found like 3 other people who have gone through it on the internet and not much RECENT info. But I can't find much info on the impact long term?
Money aside, the prospect of getting better after a few sessions is very tempting. What I was hoping to find was more success stories considering how effective this treatment is, and I'm surprised I have only found 3!! Now I don't know what to think!
There just haven't been that many people from here who have gone. I know the owner of the guesthouse talked about a lady who came back every year to get retested and has stayed in remission. It's all heresay like that.
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Six, you say you don't want to write a book because you are "over it." Apparently you aren't over it - you hang out here to help us :-)
A book would be awesome, I bet you'd spent less time not more time helping people, because you wouldn't be answering the same questions over and over. Think about it!
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Yeah, Dan, I thought of that. But it's different helping you guys. It's not rehashing all I went through, and I can come here when I have time, and not when I don't .... like I've stopped in here a few times today, in between all the other stuff I did (taught five hours of pilates classes off and on all day, went to the pool with my daughter, etc.).
I didn't say "over" .... I said "past".
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Wow, Hens, your thread has made it to page 5!! And counting. Woohoo! This is a great thread. Such great info. Very inspiring.
I'm definitely interested in this treatment at some point. I finished 3 rounds of AI (I'm going slowly with it.) And now I'm dealing with my dental issues (jawbone infection, ugh, having surgery Thurs. 6.30) Once I get this behind me, I'd like to give the Bionic some more serious consideration. Thanks again for this really great thread.
I hope that day by day, in every way, you keep getting better and better.
God bless, Tammy
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I was referring to the use of a homeopathic remedy for Lyme and coinfections, which is intended for oral use. Would it be more effective to use the PE1 with it taped to the solar plexus than to ingest it?
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Do you have a link to the homeopathic?
I found things were stronger taped, but I always tested them first orally.
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Hi Lymic,
I'm just looking around on your blogspot and wondering if you know that Herr Buschkuehl, the owner of the Bionic 880, will be in Toronto this October at the ILADS conference?!
If you have any questions for him, I'm sure he'd be glad to talk. He's very kind.
Hens
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Tammy,
You are too sweet.
I'll be praying for you on Thursday, my friend.
, Hens
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Scorpio and Fuel, You can find extensive descriptions of this treatment if you search, here on Lymenet, the archived posts of Selma, aka "Brussels" or "hardynaka".
You can also search her more recent posts on the yahoo group at
She was completely cured using PE-1 plus homeopathic nosodes.
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In case it interests anyone, I just found out the nosodes used in Germany are radionic.
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All of a sudden, I'm scared.
I have my glass vials for blood, clear tape, just got my two boxes of Borrelia ( 10 vials ) and Bartonella ( 10 vials ) and my PE-1 is supposed to be here today via Fed-Ex.
I was soooo excited, and now I feel scared.
I don't know if I'm scared about the reaction I may get, or more scared that nothing at all will happen and I am all out of options.
I think I feel like this is my last chance.. do or die.
I think when the Fed-Ex guy gets here, I'm going to f.r.e.a.k.
OMG, were y'all nervous when you went to Germany and were about to do this?
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Yes, nervous and excited and scared, just like you.
You will be OK. Really. I believe this can and will help you. We are here for questions, the PE-1 guy, Selma. You're covered.
Just treat one thing at a time, go slowly. Start out with low strength, start killing one pathogen. Get your ducks in a row for detoxing. Remember to turn off the wifi and put the cordless phone in another room. Drink lots of water (1-2 quarts while treating). Don't cross your legs or arms (crosses meridian points or something like that).
When I treated in Germany, I was in a room by myself treating with the Bionic. I was on a comfortable sofa and I had an hour and a half to think... so I pictured my kids and my husband (warm thoughts) and I visualized a battle going on inside me. Borrelia with swords on one side and white blood cells with swords on the other. The white blood cells won every time!
You can do this!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: Yes, nervous and excited and scared, just like you.
You will be OK. Really. I believe this can and will help you. We are here for questions, the PE-1 guy, Selma. You're covered.
Just treat one thing at a time, go slowly. Start out with low strength, start killing one pathogen. Get your ducks in a row for detoxing. Remember to turn off the wifi and put the cordless phone in another room. Drink lots of water (1-2 quarts while treating). Don't cross your legs or arms (crosses meridian points or something like that).
When I treated in Germany, I was in a room by myself treating with the Bionic. I was on a comfortable sofa and I had an hour and a half to think... so I pictured my kids and my husband (warm thoughts) and I visualized a battle going on inside me. Borrelia with swords on one side and white blood cells with swords on the other. The white blood cells won every time!
You can do this!!!!
I needed to hear that.
Questions: My box of Borrelia is 10 vials. Do I tape all 10 vials to me, or one at a time?
I think I saw you taped more than 1 in your video, but you have been doing this longer.
and....
Can I still take my vitamin supplement?
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: In case it interests anyone, I just found out the nosodes used in Germany are radionic.
What does this mean?
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quote:Originally posted by 17hens: I was on a comfortable sofa
Seriously? Wow. That's not how it was when I was there ..... I had a desk chair.
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I guess I felt adventurous going to Germany. I knew little to nothing about the treatment, but figured, what have I got to lose, I know where abx get me, time for something different.
Good luck!!
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quote:Originally posted by Hambone: [Questions: My box of Borrelia is 10 vials. Do I tape all 10 vials to me, or one at a time?
Can I still take my vitamin supplement? [/QB]
Yes, tape all at once. So no matter what strain of Borrelia you have, the message is to kill all Borrelia.
And yes, you can still do supplements. At least, my daughter and I are still taking ours.
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quote:Originally posted by sixgoofykids:
quote:Originally posted by 17hens: In case it interests anyone, I just found out the nosodes used in Germany are radionic.
What does this mean?
It means that they are easier to manufacture and hold the message easily. Other than that, I have no idea.
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quote:Originally posted by sixgoofykids:
quote:Originally posted by 17hens: I was on a comfortable sofa
Seriously? Wow. That's not how it was when I was there ..... I had a desk chair.
Yup, those were the good ole days. I guess you had to walk five miles uphill in the snow to get there too, huh?
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Yeah, you know it!!
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If you use ozone to kill mold in the home, you're instructed to remove people, plants, pets, etc. Curious, does anyone know why ozone ivs don't kill the good cells as well as the bad stuff? Thx!
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I think the ozone doesn't kill the good cells because the good cells are all aerobic and they like the extra oxygen, whereas the bad cells are usually anaerobic and oxygen kills them.
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