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Hi Tracy

I agree with Sparkle, ALA is a mercury chelator and can cross the blood brain barrier and pull mercury out of the brain ... and can also transport mercury from the body into the brain ... it is lipophilic so can dissolve in fatty tissue. So I guess it is possible that it might have stirred up some mercury. Do you have amalgams?

Glad its stopped now and very interesting about the homeopathic remedy helping!

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Hi Tracy, sorry about all you have been through, and glad to hear about what you have learned and what worked!

The woman I made the tick remedy for is doing well, but she is out of state so it's hard to know for sure. She is following up with her local people. I'll probably see her again in a couple of months.

So far so good with mold remedy from the air sample. It "feels" right, but time will tell.
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I mentioned the colonics. Anything about this falls into the category of "too much information," but it's worth sharing on this thread I think since there is much interest in cleanses.

I was having terrible lower GI problems from molds, and the die-off from trying to use herbal killers was too much. I decided to remove rather than kill. It seems to have worked remarkably well.

I used a standard enema bag with the intention to redo the process as many times as I needed to until the water ran clear. It took 11, and four hours. Quite a comittment. First few were done with coffee. Middle ones with iodine. Last two with probiotics.

Released a great deal of biofilm with colonies of something or other. Headaches and fatigue the following day. The next day much better, and no more GI symptoms.
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I have recently become interested in stones. I used to shy away because it was a bit too out there and woo woo. Now, I don't care, I use what works.

I've been frequenting a local rock shop to learn about the stones and feel them out. I recently brought a piece of raw kyanite. It was recommended to me for clearing the energy of other stones that have been worked too much.

When I held it I got an immediate and powerful detox reaction, complete with sound and motion. The stone seems to carry the vibration of dispersion of congestion. I've been sleeping with it on my body. It eases my right kidney, that has been giving me trouble for quite some time.

I'm glad to hear about the rose quartz. I think I will look for some nice pieces that will work for me.

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Hi Joey

Yes thats right I have CFS/ME, that was my original diagnosis and then I found out that I have lyme & co, 2 yrs ago ... Ive no idea how long Ive been infected for tho. You have CFS too right?

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Shimmy, thanks. I cleared my box.

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Yes.

I've now spoken with several people that have cfs and done photon treatment, and no one has felt significantly better using photon treatment alone.

We are suffering from systemic anaerobic metabolism. The photon treatment seems to do two things: change your body's photon field and activate immunity. However, with anaerobic metabolism, all our blood cells, red and white, degenerate rapidly in the bloodstream. I saw this firsthand when I did a live blood analysis in Germany.

Until we fix this underlying problem, it seems we're grasping at straws by trying to kill every bug in the body. it doesn't make practical or economic sense. In fact, the only sense it makes is instinctual, because we're naturally impatient beings.

I know my borrelia isn't entirely gone either. Neither is babs or bartonella. I know I still have viruses a-swimming and parasites a-hunkering. I've treated with photons for all these things probably over 60 times total now, and I've given up trying to put them in their place with force.

So shimmy, I would advise you also to at least explore other avenues with me. I see you're already pursuing EFT, so that is great. I will be doing ozone sauna + insufflation shortly to restore my body to aerobic state (and kill bugs with the singlet oxygen in the meantime). Check out ozonetherapy yahoo group..it's moderated by Dr. Saul Pressman, an expert on ozone whom I deem very trustworthy. But I think just as important is finding out what your pH level is (ph ion ph stix are good--saliva and urine ph sticks) and working with a practitioner or dowsing to find out what is causing your body to be acidic. Acidity and oxygenation are directly related. For me, my practitioner identified my digestive system as the main cause. I will be targeting this issue starting tomorrow with her to find out why. After all, our digestive system is in charge of metabolizing all those alkaline minerals.. without proper utilization, it all just goes down the pipes.

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m0joey- have you done any research into 714-X? Seems like it may be of use...
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Can you explain why? I'm reading about it..cancer therapy with camphor and with extra nitrogen atom used to render tumor cells vulnerable.. how would this apply to cfs?
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Hi Joey

Thnx for your post, we are definitely on the same wavelength re ph etc, Ive researched pleomorphism for yrs and have always been totally convinced of the ph/terrain argument and Ive always found alkalising and sticking to a low acid diet really helpful (apart from when I fall off the wagon!), though not curative alone. Ive been trying to do it a lot more seriously recently and it has definitely been helping.

So yes I monitor ph my daily..

I agree with you about Dr Pressman .. Ive been in touch with him on & off for a while and bought one of his ozone generators 2nd hand last yr off some guy but put off using it as I read that ozone can release a lot of metals at once and this is what I was afraid of so so far havent even tried using it .. tho I guess if you take binders it would mitigate the effects.

I do want to get one of those canvass saunas and start using it at some point tho.

I dont know if you follow Dr Young's work (Ph Miracle, & Sick and Tired, Reclaim Your Inner Terrain) they are good to read and you might find his blog interesting too..

http://articlesofhealth.blogspot.com/

I spoke to one of Dr Young's trainees, a blood microscopist a few weeks ago and she said one of her clients has lyme and keeps it under control through alkalising which I thought was very interesting.. (but I dont know how ill this guy was).

Your experience & the others you mention experiences of photon therapy is really interesting and v valuable to me, thnx v much for sharing that. I dont know if Im right on this or not and anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but I get the impression that the ones who had taken long term abx before trying photon have improved the most from photon ... as they had already improved to a certain level already (regardless of the diagnosis?).

I only took abx for a few weeks myself .. and was in no way capable to going over to Germany as I was so weak, so I also wondered if thats why I hadnt improved so much ... I do keep wondering if I should have taken abx a bit longer...

Anyway keep in touch and let me know how you get on and I'll do the same, it would be great to swap ideas.

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On the antibiotics end, I did them for a few months but they left an indelible toxic dent in my body. Some people only get worse from antibiotics..and continue getting worse because they genetically cannot handle such a massive bombardment of toxicity.

Although many of the ones that improved after photon treatment had done long-term antibiotics, my recollection is that many didn't have mainly chronic fatigue syndrome symptoms to begin with. It's hard to make generalizations, but I'm just pointing out what seems to be a trend.

Of course, we need to do both: restore the environment and keep the bug load down to facilitate the restoration, an it seems like you've already done all the things I've mentioned (minus the ozone). Do you plan on starting the ozone up? Regarding the metals, ozone is actually supposed to oxidize the metals and help your body dispose of them and neurotoxins. Of course, I would take binders simultaneously, but I often hear of ozone aiding with detoxification, sometimes even more than killing. So maybe you don't need to be so cautious about venturing into it.

As soon as i'm done with 2 liver flushes, I'm going in.

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Shimmy--

thanks for the book recommendation! I just bought ph miracle yesterday. The to-read list is piling up..

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Thanks Joey, ok yes I understand re the abx.

Thnx for the other info on photon too, I didnt realise that most didnt have CFS. I do find it confusing tho as I thought most of the symptoms were the same eg anaerobic metabolism, post exertional fatigue etc ..

My CFS didnt start off with a bite though, so I'm definitely not a case of classic lyme, I had a course of vaccines that I think tipped my immune system too much one way, leading to a build up of intracellular infections, & metals too and ended up as you say a pathogen soup!

Re the metals thats what Dr P told me too and I wrote to Andy Cutler to ask him what he thought and he said it doesnt work like that and that ozone wouldnt get rid of metals ... anyway I guess its down to who you believe isnt it, I guess as I had been on AC's protocol and know others who got well on it, I trusted his knowledge more at the time, but who knows.

Yes ozone sauna is supposed to be an excellent detox aid isnt it.

Im probably not going to start on ozone just yet, I want to work on my gut a bit more then maybe consider doing a couple of liver flushes first before starting it, like you. Also I still need to find more effective adrenal support as I feel that is really hindering my recovery so looking into that too.

Anyway good luck with the liver flushes & let me know how you get on with ozoning, fingers crossed it will work!

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Tracy -- really sorry to hear about heart issues. It seems you found something in the process, do you have any idea why the lachesis remedy worked? By the way, you may want to see which teeth may affect the heart. The following link is to a meridian tooth chart. You may want to compare what teeth issues you have with this chart.

http://www.natures-blessings.org/MeridianToothChart.pdf

To all, after you do the liver flushes add bile salts and energetically test. You might find this cheap supplement is very important to continue to keep the liver working well ( i got this great link from a very good friend).

http://www.newswithviews.com/Howenstine/james63.htm

I agree with shimmy and m0joey about doing the flushes. To further alkalize you might consider celery seed tea. Something I've added to my morning ritual. [lol]

http://www.deepdownwellness.com/store/celeryseed.html

There are others, but I sense this is simple and can be made to be enjoyable. Well it something to try if you haven't already.

By the way, if you get the oportunity to ever experiment. You might try other light frequencies, they are not the same and might be as effective. You might try corresponding with Janis EELLS about photon therapy further. Get a take from an actual photon researcher.

Making an LED device isn't that complicated if you involve someone familiar with circuit boards.

Bejoy -- that's is so interesting about how mold can cause such disruption and how you approached the problem. It has been said how we are all different and that is why are symptoms vary. I wonder if its environments are soooo different from person to person. Check out the link about hvac systems:

http://www.allergyconsumerreview.com/mold-prevention-uv.html

Selma -- Is it the terrain or do we need to get rid of the bug inside us. My view point has changed, I now believe we need to fix the terrain and evolve with the bug. This is an epidemic that is just going to keep growing and reinfecting. I remember my biology teach said there were 20 fruit flies in a bottle all died but one when the injected some gas. Somehow nature fines a way to survive when all should have perished. In some ways, I really believe our own intentions to survive can give us a way to evolve. Many pathogens in the past became symbiotic, it might be a good discussion.

Sparkle : the triphala is an excellent parasite cleanse, been used thousands of years in india.

Alv : I used the terminator 2 devices for good while, just don't test positively for them anymore.

News: My leg pain symptoms are gone, just working on getting better sleep and getting my next thyroid test to see if there is improvement there. I feel great right now.

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Hey bob,

Still testing negative for triphala. Maybe it's the brand (planetary herbals), maybe it's the triphala. It just might not be for everyone.

I did however start taking humaworm today.

Alv--I purchased the ultimate zapper to use. It does seem to be the favorite on curezone

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Shimmy--

If you aren't ready for the ozone, you might think about taking alkalizing baths (if you haven't already:

35% h202 (care when handling--use gloves as direct contact will burn your hands)--1 cup

baking soda 1 cup

epsom salt 1 cup

The h202 bath is the easiest, cheapest way to get oxygen into your body. I am also taking homozon, another way to "flood" your body with oxygen...but it has a dual purpose as a colon cleanse to prep for liver flush.

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Just for the record, CFS was and still is my main symptom. Light and nosodes has been my best tool so far.

Still, I started it after I had already made an almost complete recovery on herbals, series remedies, and bee venom ointment, and was having a lyme recurrance.

Thanks everybody, for all the posts and info!

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Any one heard of the Eagle Pro Guardian?

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/eagle_guardian.htm

Homeopathic Imprinter & Potentizer

The Eagle Guardian is able to create a powerful homeopathic remedy from the user's body itself. The remedy contains a greatly amplified imprint of the individual's total bio-energetic signature (including any harmful vibrations present in a person's body), and can be stored in a small, glass vial. When this vial is worn on the body, it is able to continuously send an amplified signal to the body, repeatedly giving clear direction as to how to restore balance. With the Guardian, nothing needs to be ingested.

Or

The Eagle Remedy Maker

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/eagle_remedymaker.htm

What do you think??

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m0joey- just a quick note - I have to go to bed!

I posted a thread here about 714-X. Do a search.... Seems it can be used for illnesses other than cancer!

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m0joey -- the biggest issue with triphala is tannins which can be problematic for the liver. All substances can cause issues if there is a physical weakness in the body. Phrase an energetic question about liver and triphala. It might get a little closer to why triphala would cause an issue.

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I took the weekend off from LN, and wow, so many posts...
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Alv, many thanks for all the info on materials for teeth restorations... I still trust ART for that, my partial was tested too. My lyme doctor ran a long test on other materials. But I only could use a certain gold alloy so far... So I'm still looking for alternatives for my front tooth...

You are right on the brain symptoms for babesia, AND the LIGHT SENSITIVITY!!

I'm sure my babesia caused me light sensititivity to the point of causing me to throw up if some sunlight touched my eyes. Both times when babesia went dormant, the symptom vanished. Other people in LN have reported that with babesia too. Funny that is not in the babesia symptom list.

Another interesting comment from you, about lyme going dormant with fasting!!! You're the first person I hear about that. It HAPPENED EXACTLY TO ME last September.

Nothing I did was making my lyme dormant that time and I felt every thing I ate went to borrelia first. Then, like you, I decided to stop eating, I sort of heard in my head a command saying 'stop eating'.

I did that and in a week, my borrelia went dormant, my muscle pains stopped after about 5 months of daily suffering. Only after I started reading about fasting, but never really found anything saying it puts critters dormant!! I just found articles about detoxing. Buhner is though for fasting too.

Alv, great that your stomach looks healing. Me too, it healed with lyme treatment!! I can drink milk even without having awful pains. I even crave for non pasteurized goat milk, I'm drinking almost every day.

And the change in tastes, I guess, this is also a sign (I guess) that we are healing or at least, changing! I now want to eat more spicy too, even though my cells in my mouth are not used too. Never happened since I have memory of my childhood.

I'm still crossing fingers for you to fight your collection of babesia strains.... It must be tough, but I believe, when you put at least the divergens dormant, it will be a BIG positive change in your life. I get mad with babesia, when it goes dormant, I accept to have all other infections, even candida, bartonella, etc. It's babesia that feels like consuming and eating my brain, my energy.

I suffered from CFS, it was because of it and my stiff neck that I thought I might have lyme.

Fatigue can be caused, in my view, by many things:

- thyroid, adrenals exaustion, malfunction

- metabolic problems with sugars

- mal absorption of food

- food allergies

- excessive number of infections (even a cold causes fatigue for the healthy ones, so when you start to reach a dozen active pathogens, no wonder you get fatigue...)

- parasitism

- excess of toxins coupled with detox problems(endotoxins, mycotoxins, heavy metals, chemicals, undigested foods, whatever else that you eat /breathe...).

- psychological issues

- EMRs affecting your hypophyse during the night

- lack of good nutrients reaching where they should

- even one blocked organ, like lymph, or liver, or kidney ALONE can cause strong fatigue...

- lack of oxygenation of cells, certainly.

If anyone wants to add, I'm all ears...

I always get fatigue back when I'm doing metal detox, when I fight candida, fungi, borrelia or any infection that is actively creating symptoms, when my body is full of toxins... w

hen I stay too long in the computer (excess of EMRs)... when I sleep in EMR polluted places. If I don't excercise too...

Photons played a big role in my fatigue, it was like food for my cells. I also used the magic mix of UBICHINON + CITROKEHL + COENZYME COMP, that I recommend to anyone fighting fatigue...

Ubichinon (CoQ10 and many other stuff inside) and citrokehl (citric acid dilutions) sort of correct the citric acid cycle and make the mitochondria produce energy well again. Coupled with Coenzyme comp to help on chemical reactions inside the cells, I find this MIX a wonderful remedy.

the double or triple mix above is recommended by some of Sanum followers (even if these are mostly Heel products).

It's wonderful because one can take these through photons, you don't need to get IV injections! I get a boost in cleansing capacities of my body almost immediately, I feel I enter detox mode (like urine gets stinky and darker for example)...

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Tracy, watch out for Alpha lipoic acid... It can move heavy metals around, specially in the brain according to dr. K.

Not a supplement to be playing with amalgams, nor in the first stages of metal detox...

I HOPE your heart is still stable after your Lachesis experiment, Tracy. How are you doing these last two days??

These heart symptoms are the worst...

No, I bought the camphora D200. It takes me days to do a 200 dilution as I sucuss now 100 times EACH dilution.

I know a pharmacist who is homeopath too that became a sort of friend and we are exchanging lots of information!! He said, one has to succuss the bottle VERTICALLY (not horizontally), and that what is best is 100 times for each dilution.

He is sort of ALLERGIC to these frequency machines that only copy frequencies. I can sense that these frequency machines are not homeopathy.

I'm having great experiences with the 100 times succusion remedies than with the previous 40 times I was doing. But to make a 200 D at home, it's very long. I have done that for some people, but it's very tiring. If I continue doing that, I will buy a machine, but it costs 2,000 EURO, used by professionals...

Awful info about clostridium, Tracy... Was that your nice neighbor friend who died suddenly? And I had active clostridium at least once...

I tested rose quartz here, as we have quite a few stones for a long time. It is a beneficial stone, I find too, very 'positive' but it can't protect me from EMRs. I asked many times.

I found out that these blankets that people use in emergency situations, the ones half aluminium half gold color are one of the BEST materials blocking EMRs! The person has read that in a German publication and then made his own tests with a machine and published it in his website.

I wanted to buy some but still didn't have time. A sort of mini protection during trips in hotels....

I have to go out now, I'll continue answering after!

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Hi Joey,

Thanks! Yes I do those alkalising baths and put himalayan salt in there too which makes me feel more energised.

I agree with you about the Homozon, Ive used that in the past and found it good for clearing out the gut.

Other alkalising stuff I'm doing is taking Tri Salts which you've probably heard of..its bicarbonates of sodium, calcium & potassium and they also seem to help with energy and sleep too when I take them at bedtime.

I also recently started on Doc Broc Greens, one of Dr Young's green powders which seems to be energising me too. I dont think we can get enough minerals into us.

Just to add too that I consulted a doctor last yr at the Breakspear Hospital here in the UK and he also works at the Paracelsus Clinic in Switzerland and he told me that in his experience those who dont respond to treatment or feel really bad on treatment, whether its abx or herbs or whatever, DO start to respond once they start alkalising and get their ph up to 8. (Tho those who follow Dr Young say it should be even higher around 9 if you are sick). He thinks this is critical.

I know the Paracelsus Clinic is heavily into pleomorphism (Sanum remedies) and alkalising and as far as I know they dont use abx, but I dont know what their success rate is.

Thanks Bob, I dont have celery seed tea, but I do juice a lot of celery! Hope the tea is helping you.

Bejoy thnx for your post, its interesting and v encouraging to me.

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Hi Selma

Are you saying that you put supplements on your abdomen when you use the PE1 similar to what is done with the nosodes? & you feel you get the benefit from the supplement?

I think I remember someone else posting about this but dont know if it was you or someone else, but Ive not tried it.

Anyway thats great if it works!

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Thanks for the understanding and encouragement regarding my heart issue, folks.

I had no idea that Alpha Lipoic Acid (ALA) could cause problems and chelate mercury, etc.! And yes, I have like 11 amalgams left in my mouth. What I read about it before taking it made it sound like the miracle supplement of the century. I noticed there's a thread about it on LN right now. Sheesh. Well, no sense in getting my knickers in a twist over it - what's done is done.

Thanks, Sparkle. Hawthorn Berry (Crataegus oxycantha) tincture is a great heart tonic. The positive effects are cumulative. In the USA, they use berries, flowers, and leaves to make extracts. We can't buy true herbal Mother Tinctures here, for some reason. So, I ordered Crataegus Mother Tincture made just with berries from Ainsworths in London ages ago. I stopped using it when the kinesiologist tested that I didn't need it last fall (no heart issues then, either). Well, my dowsing last night said I needed 4 drops in a bit of water once a day. So, I started back on it. I've never had any negative effects from it.

Bob, I chose Lachesis based on my symptoms, i.e. (these descriptions from some Materia Medicas): Palpitation of heart, with fainting.... Irregularity of beats; Constrictive sensation in region of heart; As if heart too large for containing cavity; Stitches in region of heart, with shortness of breath, .....Faintings and palpitation recurring; With headache, flickerings, dim vision, very pale face. Heart.--Palpitation, with fainting spells.... Constricted feeling causing palpitation, with anxiety. Cyanosis. Irregular beats; As though heart turned over and ceased beating for a moment; as if heart hadn't room to beat. As if neck constricted with a cord; During the headache much heart trouble; Fainting accompanying other complaints is an indication for Lachesis.....

I think I've talked about Lachesis on this thread before - not a remedy to be messed with in lower potencies (even 6C or 12x are too low).

I dowsed about further doses of Lachesis after the initial episode as I still didn't feel `normal'. I got a yes for one additional dose, then kept getting a no for the rest of the week. Finally, I got a yes last night and felt additional relief of some lingering sensations/ symptoms. (I've felt vaguely on the verge of another episode all week.) And as I researched Lachesis this morning, I found that it is considered a deep, long-acting remedy, that doses should not be repeated too frequently, and that `the action of a single dose should be exhausted before another dose is taken'. So, that certainly fits with my dowsing answers. (I keep trying to verify my dowsing in some way.)

We'll see how my symptoms are the next couple of days. I may try to make a remedy out of the ALA to treat the negative effects of it. I did that with Cumanda and it worked, but this is a little different - the symptoms are more subtle. Meanwhile, I take my little 1/2 dram dropper bottle of Lachesis 30C in my pocket if I go anywhere.

Somewhat interesting, too, is that I researched remedies for Mitral Valve Prolapse (MVP) around the same time that I found the Lachesis remedy. I haven't been diagnosed with MFP but suspect I may have that. So, I wanted a remedy to have on hand. I asked my homeopath about it, too, and the remedy most commonly used is Naja. Naja is made from Cobra venom; Lachesis is made from Bushmaster snake venom. Looks like I'm in the world of Snake Oils, for sure! [Big Grin]

More later.... I'm out of time again.

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Tracy, I'm pleased to hear that things have calmed down for you with Lachesis. I know that it can be pretty frightening when these symptoms refuse to die down:

I get episodes that sound just like yours [minus the headache] every so often, but the palpitations and arrhythmia, constriction, shortness of breath and faintness have been very prominent in the past 2 weeks.

I have been leaving out some of my supplements/medication in order to try to track whether it is related to something I'm doing:

I am hoping that it is unrelated to my starting to use a blanket infrared sauna [under guidance, only up to 10 mins on 32]; perhaps, as there is no sweating at that temperature, toxins are mobilised and trapped....on the other hand I've been taking several newish things, so who knows?

I'll take a look at Lachesis and Naja, thanks,

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Shimmy and Joey on alkalinising diets... I guess the diet idea is great, green veggy juices, increase in intake of fruits /vegetables, there can't be anything bad in that, I suppose?

But INGESTING the stuff Sanum proposes is not always the best, I find, specially because it will alkalinize your stomach. You need acids to digest. I did a bit of what they proposed but very soon their Alkala products stopped testing...

Much better than these remedies are like you said, alkalinize diet, at least for me.

For that sugar is a total NO. Let the sugar OUT of your diets. It is extremely acid.

Dr. K is also not that much into the alkalnizing theory (through supplements, I suppose?). I find though that other products like the lactic acid homeopathic product (called Sanuvis) work much better than REAL substances.

If I remember well, if your body is not acidic, you can't detox well, for example. So I guess the question is not only alkalinize everywhere all the time, but WHERE and WHEN to alkalinize.

These are just my thoughts... I gotta go into my notes again and study the subject further...

I will take a closer look into my Sanuvis and keep asking for more people to see how the test goes. Inner elbow is a great gate for the intestines. You don't have to use it ingested even!

You can use that rubbed and send it to some parts of your body through certain 'accupuncture' gates (like inner elbow for GI tract).

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Bejoy, glad you are using the homeopathic mold preparations! Let us know how it goes!!

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Bob, agree on the terrain story.

But I have to kill bugs that test, I can't wait and see what happens WHEN my terrain will be perfect...

I know I'll never get all of them, it's an impossibility, but I have to feel that we are living in harmony, and not that they are taking my energy and life away!!

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Robin, I was also looking for something to imprint remedies. I guess, if someone gave if for free I was going to try it.

But as I have been sooo long dealing with homeopathy and everytime I drop into, for example, anthroposific remedies, and compare them with the real homeopathic ones, I could never ever find one anthroposofic that tests better. Even if I don't know they are anthroposofic and discover only after.

The people at Meripharm write all over "our products are NOT radionics", meaning, these are not frequency imprinted remedies, but REAL homeopathic dilutions. I suppose they do see a big difference in techniques.

if I remember well, someone said that these frequency imprinted remedies also don't work well with photons?? Anyway, I'm sort of more traditional when dealing with remedies, maybe because I have long experience using homeopathics and no experience with these radionic stuff?

Having said that, the AI is also a radionic product and it does seem to work well, right?

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Shimmy, I also did the foot baths with sodium bicarbonate or with himalayan salt for years!!

That was the only thing that could keep my feet surviving fungal infections for decades, until I found the Sanum and photons recently...

It's true it's a good feeling. I haven't done that again since day one I got my PE1 though! Sort of lazy...

Yes. When you take homeopathics, you can always test to see if you can take the remedy through photons, like we do with nosodes. Any homeopathic remedy is a frequency remedy.

I don't think it works for ALL homeopathics (at least, it doesn't test as working for all), but for many, it works. Before I was ingesting the above cited mixture every hour or every two hours (like my body was craving that magic mix). When I took them through photons, no need anymore for days, or weeks.

Exactly like with nosodes!!

The intake point for me though is not the solar plexus, but the Mediastinum OR the 3rd eye. Mostly mediastinum. Same for my daughter and other people I test.

I don't know if this is because the solar plexus is still working with the killing nosode effect for days and days and then my body asks to have an intake from another point?

Or if the gate for these specific cleaning products are just another?

I also 'took' the other combo remedies from dr. W. through photons, so did my daughter. These were lymphomyosot, hepar compositum, solidago compositum, then still added the magnesium phosphoricum from Heel. Apart from the magnesium, the other 3 seemed to work well this way.

The magnesium, I needed support from REAL supplement (non homeopathic). Now I don't need the real magnesium anymore, just homeopathic.

I feel we got to test one by one and experiment to see what our bodies prefer.

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Selma and friends, interesting conversation about Homeopathics vs. Radionics.

I'm old-school enough to prefer the home-made hands on products.

I'm practical enough to use my dishwasher instead of hand washing all my dishes. They don't get as clean, sometimes have a film, and smell like dish soap. But they are sterilized and I can eat off of them again without devoting my life to my kitchen.

I'm practical enough to try the short cuts, and if they work for me, to use them again.

A machine potentised copy of a computer generated test vial for TB probably saved my life, used with photons, after Selma figured out what was wrong with me.

I mainly use frequency imprinted products with photons, as they are working for me.

I suppose copiers may vary greatly. The one I am using needs the copy button pushed four times to get the strength of copy that I prefer.

In my case I have seen that some of these copiers do work very well. The products may not be as good as hand made homeopathics, but I wouldn't know, since I have not done a good comparison of any kind.

I now have two copiers, but have not yet taken the opportunity to compare them to each other. One is still in the box, since I found out how to make my first one work.

Once I get that project under way and compare my two machines, Selma, we will have to do some experimenting with the machines to compare with the homeopathics.

Robin, I'm not so interested in the Eagle Pro, since it only copies but doesn't make potencies. One of my machines is a no name I got off ebay. The other one is made by White Mountain. If I like it I'll let you know.

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Just a quick note.

Heavy metals in movement, mobilized by no matter which means, by chelators, by newly dead critters, by ingesting contaminated food, by breathing contaminated air in a conference hall, by using infra red saunas, by using infra red in the skin like we do, whatever... can cause heart symptoms.

One of my main metal intoxication symptom is fatigue, but heart palpitations, high blood pressure, insomnia, hands shaking, air hunger are others. There are many other symptoms. Liver and kidney pain, GI track get messed up, stomach gets upset, then of course, I get a rise in candida infections, then more fatigue, more fog...

I remember reading an article about mercury intoxication symptoms, and you find that, like lyme, mercury poisoning mimics hundreds of diseases. It was not dozens, because the list was enormous!

I'm not saying all heart symptoms are from metal intoxication, but it feels that I often read that people take chelator supplements and get heart symptoms, or the infra red sauna above from Carry. It just sort of rings a bell.

a good way to know is to take many binders in suficient amounts at once and see if the heart symptom decreases. If you feel like a bit calmer after, it could be that!

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Thank you, Selma; yesterday my heart symptoms died down significantly , despite my trying the sauna again after a break of 5 days, so I feel more encouraged.

I left out Pectasol Chelation, Moducare and Triphala for a few days because they were my newest supplements..also left out Amoxicillin. Yesterday and today have been using Spiro again, with boneset, samento and cumanda.

Funnily enough, I noticed the heart etc as easier almost immediately after drinking a redbush tea with 4 cardamom pods..smashed..and 2 cloves: must have been inspired by you, Selma!!

Carry

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Great you are feeling better Carry.

I am starting to have malarial symptoms after trying to kill it... I seem to have chills every evening the same time, that lasts about 1-2 hours, and having night sweats.

Not as bad as babesia, but there's a similar pattern (like going to bed feeling frozen, then wake up soaked in sweat). Nothing as bad as babesia but sort of crazy that I could have malaria....

I still can't believe... Just these tests keep saying... So, as for babesia, there's chronic malaria (?!!). That sounds incredible.

I start to feel more tired than usual, with some sun sensitivity again. Nothing strong, but I feel it.

I kept asking, and realized that these malaria critters are stuck into my liver. I feel some sort of pressure there, that doesn't react anymore with MSM dilutions, nor cilantro, nothing.

My liver wants now lemon. It may help with stuck particles there, I suppose. I started today on reflex massage in my liver and definitively feel something 'moving' there. Probably some garbage accumulated with the years (?).

I guess I need to clean my liver to get these critters out from it.

Rizol mix from dr. K. tests, only ONE DROP a day... This strain seems to have a cystic or dormant form (or might be just the eggs...), and again, like in babesia, they are killed with different products.

Malaria trop. active form: rizol mix, salt (light solution)

'Cysts': cloves, cardamon

MMS doesn't test, artemisinin, artemisia annua, quinine, Riamet, frozen garlic don't test either...

I thought I could go on vacation without taking any killers with me... Nope.

I will take these 4 'killers'. Photons with nosodes test negative, ingested nosodes either. It is sounding like babesia, isn't it?

But my babesia is dormant for a loooong time.

This malaria bug is testing only in my liver, so there I go for a lemon + reflex massage. If I can't get rid of it, then I guess I'll have to try the liver flush.

I have decades of experience with foot reflexology, let's see what I get for my liver + gall bladder there.

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CAmphora D200 stopped testing for us all. And also the real camphor. CAmphor tincture didn't test (essential oil), even if diluted.

I feel now I need something like camphora D2. I wonder if I will be able to get such a low potency from the pharmacy.

I am impressed with the homeopathic form of Camphora, the D200. I will certainly keep this remedy on my side table and keep asking. For lymph drainage, it's an amazing remedy. Pity it stopped testing so far... I guess it did its job (?)
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This will be my last post for the next weeks, I think. I'll try to check from abroad, but no idea if I will be able to post.

Have a nice holiday!

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Have a wonderful vacation, Selma.

Oh, on the Rose Quartz, I did some more dowsing about it - don't know if this is accurate, of course, but here's what I got: The Rose Quartz I've got in the bedroom will protect me from EMFs from outside the house but not from the inside wiring, unless I put a stone between me and the wall or put a stone under my pillow; Rose Quartz will NOT protect everyone; the reason it works for me is because many properties of the stone fit well with my personality/ constitution.

I didn't think to ask about these particular stones - they are very clear and translucent - they look almost like palest pink glycerin soaps. You can see through them. Some I have seen are mostly opaque with a lot of white in them.

Anyway, I put a stone under my pillow last night..... for the FIRST time in more years than I can remember, I didn't wake up until it was beginning to get light outside. I am ALWAYS up while it is still dark, winter and summer.... until last night. Pretty odd. It could be some other thing I started recently, though, so I can't say for sure.

Good to hear your heart issues have diminished, Carry. I'm hoping the infrared blanket sauna isn't part of the problem...... I just signed up for 10 Far Infrared Saunas a couple of weeks ago, and haven't done any since my heart palps started getting more frequent. [Frown] My symptoms seem much better since the last dose of Lachesis, but I still feel like things aren't quite right yet.

Re `electromagnetic' versus genuine homeopathics: I've wondered about that. Perhaps we could compare it to allopathic drugs. For instance, aspirin made from real willow bark may test far superior to the synthetic aspirin we all use that is made in a lab. Or maybe `real' penicillin synthesized from actual mold would test much better than synthetic penicillin. The `synthetic' versions are good enough to get the job done for the majority of people.

Good grief, it's late already. That will teach me to wake up so late, lol.

Shimmy and Carry, it's so good to have other voices from across the pond, BTW.

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R26..re: Eagle Pro Guardian

What really caught my attention was this:

Lithium battery.

Li is tricky to dose orally because we need so very little of it, but is

used for manic-depression.

(George Eby, author of a HUGE Mg website, cured his own manic-depression using Mg.)

I am pretty sure this stems from a glutamate problem since Mg is one of the gates to the NMDA receptors and glutamate kicks Mg off...

Lithium is a very very "reactive" mineral to make hydrogen and many of our cells are "hydrogen powered".

Hydrogen...our pH = potential of hydrogen.

CoQ10 carries hydrogen INTO the mitochondria. We normally MAKE this enzyme.

CoQ10 supplement is made with either rice bran oil or soybean oil which contain small amts. of nutrients...key ones.

It is very expensive and it is likely a LOT in divided doses per day would be needed.

About photons...

Energy travels in various wavelengths.

The key wavelengths for "intuition" are alpha and (esp.) theta.

I have a "meditation" CD which has to be listened to via headphone.

On the back of the case:

Beta = alertness, concentration, cognition
Alpha = relaxation, visualization, creativity
Theta = meditation, intuition, memory
Delta = detached awarness, HEALING, SLEEP.

Can you look at the above and figure out which wavelength (s) lyme is impacting?

When I listen to the above CD, I hear an ongoing underlying "tone" (carrier wave?)

Can we listen to music and "retrain" the brain?

I also have a CD called "Sleep Deeply". We play it every night and by the second track...fall asleep. We use a portable CD player, plugged in, and have attached cheap speakers. It really works to help us to fall asleep.

Finally, I have another CD which I haven't listened to yet...called "Sequencia".

This CD is supposed to help repair our DNA.

Here is what is printed on the back:

Introduction
Tal
Adenine
Tal
Thymine
Tal
Guanine
Psalmus
Pataphysical thymine

(I double-checked spelling...the last 2 are "Greek" to me.)

Now I know many/most of you think this is hog-wash, but supposedly it is legit research from some very smart people (Dr. David Deamer is one) who in conjunction with musicians (Susan Alexjander) figured out how to use "sound" to heal.

Sound...light...just different "area" of the same...the EM spectrum.

More info. here (for starters):

http://www.oursounduniverse.com/music_samples.html

IMO...some "sound"/music maybe healing and some maybe harmful.

We already KNOW anything too LOUD is bad (destructive to our hearing).

Re: bile salts.

Does the body go into a "sequester bile salts mode" as a defense move (as it does iron)in lyme?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10693173 (read last 2 sentences).

It appears the body maybe trying to prevent cell death (apoptosis) from this route and others.

Too many cells dying too fast...the body would not be able to handle. It looks to want to destroy the pathogen, but preserve the cells.

This looks to involve NO = nitric oxide.

And the NO level is also controlled by ephinephrine and norephinephrine (= adrenaline and noradrenaline)- lowered - which impact the adrenergic receptors = 2 alpha(s) and 1 beta.

"Catecholamines decrease hepatocyte (liver cells) production of NO

***in response to cytokine stimulation.***

Cytokines -> catecholamines -> liver NO production down.

While some NO is good, too much is not.

This effect seems to be due to post-translational events and appears to be mediated in part by cyclic adenosine monophosphate."
PMID: 11490358

cAMP.

How do I know all this? My daughter is very ill right now and the docs cannot find the cause.

This was all triggered initially by:

the BC pill, Yasmin,

which is NOT supposed to be given to asthmatics.

She is asthmatic.

She has a genetic problem and has used Ventolin (albuterol) to open her airways.

asthma homozygous for arginine at B16 (B16Arg/Arg)

(In genetics, an individual is homozygous for a trait if both genes from both parents are the same.)

"such as B16 and L1210, might contain a cell population


***resistant to arginine deficiency.***

Such resistant cells may have a high arginine-regenerating..."

"60% of patients with asthma homozygous for arginine at B16 (B16 Arg/Arg) had a positive response to albuterol (29),

compared with only 13% in individuals homozygous for glycine at that position (p = 0.05). "

This genetic problem looks to shift her immune response to a greater cytokine response...and her "alpha" adrenergic receptors maybe upregulated.

Like her 'bro...both have too friggin much inflammation going on.

They have a very hard time balancing Na and K.

For HER...Yasmin was disasterous. It is an aldosterone antagonist and causes hyperkalemia (too high potassium level in the blood).

The drug, Ventolin works by this:

This drug ***promotes movement of K into cells***, lowering the blood levels.

"Hyperkalemia develops when there is excessive production (oral intake, tissue breakdown) or ****ineffective elimination of potassium.*** "

So genetically she has a hard time getting K INTO the cells (= need for Rx: Ventolin), but lowering aldosterone via Yasmin prevented K from LEAVING the body (elimination) -> hyperkalemia.

It was not a good idea to lower her aldosterone level given her genetic makeup.

Please say a prayer for her. She is very sick. This has been going on for over a year...one symptom, one problem to another to another. It's getting scary...dry eyes, photosensitive, her thyroid (ultrasound)is enlarged on one side, 2 days ago she had to have her urethra dilated 'cause it was very constricted and she was holding onto too much urine (residual)...

When will they figure out a root cause?!

Sorry for rambling..."mom" is worried about her child.

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Babesia is a tricky lil critter aint it.

Have a great vakay selma! good luck with the search!

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I'm sorry about your daughter, Marnie. I don't really know enough about what your posted. I'm not against drugs but they can be harsh on the system. I try to use natural remedies as much as I can. It's easier for me to figure out what went wrong if I get really ill.

I like Hemi-sync & the binaural beats very much. I believe Dr. K has a Lyme CD. I called the office to find info about it & no one returned my call.

Selma, I would suggest that you do a good parasite cleanse before doing the liver flush. Hulda Clark has lots of info about it.

The liver flushes can be harsh. It's good to be prepared & to be able to rest for a few days afterwards. After the parasite cleanse, you may want to try some herbs to soften the stones prior to the liver flush.

I don't think I would do a liver flush "cold' again. I just had no idea what was really going on!

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Marnie, sending you a big hug, it was already a lot to have your sister sick, now your daughter...

What a life... And I guess, no one knows again the cause? So much suffering around. Sending good vibes for your little one and FOR MOM TOO!! You don't deserve that, Marnie!!

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thanks Sparkle and Joey!! I will go on vacations, and see after for the flush or parasite cleanse...

I did about 20 minutes reflex massage (PAINFUL!!!!) on my liver point, it was a mess there, I could feel in my feet. Then bigger fatigue for 2 hours, and now again, back to being energetic... What a life.

Malaria... no one will ever believe me.

gotta go pack!

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Brussels!

When I did liver flushes ( I am warning people here) I disturbed the dormant BUGS as well and I made some of them comming out of thir NEST( that were forced ,disturbed )5 times in 2 weeks apart.

I have seen them exactly as at lymephotos.com

I have had all lyme and COInfections and I made the CHAINS of lyme and babs getting out and spread in my body.In this case I know for sure that WAS BABESIA DIVERGENS the BIGGY and malaria type .

Was scary as I could feel them creating a bloot clogg and have no idea how they did not move towards my head.

But I definitly could track them from my left foot moving into my veins into my liver and up to my arms -was very very scary and my heart valvue was making a weird noise and such pain when they bypassed that heart .WOBENZYMES and CAYENES peper , Co q10 kept me alive .Thank good I was prepared for this stuff back than in 2006.


So I was lucky to know exactly what could help me back than but I just did not know what the hell the bugs were ( again was clueles on lyme).

NOW that I know that I have had 3 babesia and a Malaria type( found that the ER when I was 6 in hospital on IV -was somthing with malaria/type that I got in MY COUNTRY ) .We used to have this for decades on some area in my country where I grew up and is not somthing old.

Also recall that in EUROPE back 35 years ago was a clouds of bugs that came from other countries that destroyed all the corps( I wonder if they were released purpously -it would not surprise me as it was only in HOT AREAS of EUROPE where big changes of campuses -politicly were hapening throughout the world and they finaly were separated into 2 groups) .

Many disease were showed up later.Some of them were listed on the website of the cautries were the troups are still SO NO SUPRISE that you can really get it even now!!!

There are still people that get treatment from GOVERNMENT for it if the parents passed them into kids -but they are clueles on lyme like most of the rest in europe .MALARIA has been known and is known there but you just do not know it as you came from BRAZIL.

Bruseels,I do beilive you -and certain forms are not only in tropicals but as plasmodium they are eveyrwhere-mousquitos are the problem.

Watch out please to treat treat it before you do a liver flush.I insist on every one -liver flushes are GREAT but without doing all the stages as I mentioned -I AM IN NO NO RECOMANDATIONS .Also to break down the STONES has always been used ( sim ple way) using GREEN APLE JUICE .1 glass a DAY and you will be fine.Juice it with the skin in it.

Stone FREE is also a good product from planetary .I have been using it lately .

You need to kill them before you do liver flushes and you let them loose -watch out .Letting them loose as in my case was dangerous( I was clueles less than about TICK Borne illneses-I was just trying to clean my body).


This happened after I have had done all the SHULTZES programs, Sandra CABOT diet and using all her products and every step of HULDAS but did not treated tick borne illness and in my case BABESIA was a HUGE issue on my case .You know that they STAY in the LIVER.

Brussels...since I started treatment to chase babs ( seems that this treatment is hitting that bug as well) my first spot that I felt pain when I did the liver flushes was exactly in my left side of the liver.

Now every time I take the stuff for treatment I feel the pain right there but is geting less and less -hopefully will destroy their nest for good this time.

THE NEST was build for almost 35 years .So is not that easy to get them all out .I also noticed that THE ONLY THING THAT HAS fully potencial to the BRAIN to treat any babs /equinine , protozoa, even tryponasomas, toxa ...WAS ARTEMISIA from Z.

This one had the highest point to treat things and CROSS BBB.( I am just sharing ).Also tested that the potency of ARTEMISIN is HIGHER when taken after the GFS exstract before so the absorbation of it from the gut is stronger ( fully ) but does not catch the cyst of any babesia thats the tricky part and you really need a cyst buster.

THEILERIA microti that is USA strain is NaSTY .CAUSES twitching -NO kidding.If you do not kill it off complelty will come back and is in matter of time.In this case is not brucella is not bartonella...but COLONIES of THEILERIA.This was is a piroplasmosis .

That is the reason that my first atempt to kill babs on artemisin alone DID not work.

I did not know that before -so you need to think of the cyst buster as well.

Another thing is that only 5-7 pills ( of zhang ) will reach the brain TAKEN all at the same time.Than later 2 more dosages of 5 are at least that should be 15-17 in the system within 24 to do the job and reach exstremeties.I am talking about top of head and hands and feet.

My left shoulder IS FINALLY free in my case so my heart is finally fine ( even from CYST now) and my right shoulder was so painful when reached the 17 day treatment and it WAS DEEP very DEEP in the middle of my right shoulder.

I also noticed that NOT ONLY Lyme goes to one side .So my babs are on my right side as well -where LYME stayed.So even though my lyme is dormant and I am almost done with bart for GOOD and ehrlichia does not seem to be there anymore ..still babs is higher on right side in my body.So the left side is getting clearer faster .

Maybe I am lucky as the people that have the left side involved they have the HEART side as well and the tightnees on the shoulder and chest problems even more.

NO tightness on my neck and knees getting stronger.I also wanted to add that ARTEMISIN took the best point IN TREATING MANY THINGS as I mentioned above.

I recall the chills as you mentioned SELMA...leaving in harmony with a TICK bomb disease is not my choice.That`s got to get out of my body at least NOW that I test them mysel .I know when you say no body is going to beilive me.I completly beilive you .I have almost given up on my doctors.Since I started treating myself I made way more progress and faster recovery .

So my kids.I made their protocoll.After I have done so many eksperiment in my body .

By the way .IF you do ART -the body says NO NEED for ARTEMISIN.BUt when I asked for the BUGS in the brain -HOW many I need to reach them than I get the answer.So my rephrasing is diferent.My liver is almost cleaned.That is when MUSCLE testing is ended to help me.MY pendulum ( or biotensor) is the best to follow.

As I am chasing them in FREE form and in CYST form at the same time I am reducing them at the same rate .

Spleen also is not in pain anymore..due to the fact that does not have to work hard ( usully most people that Have babs /protozoa, toxa and plasmodiuam have pain in their left side).The spleen has to work exstra hard to clean the blood from this blood parasites.

I have talked to many people and have heard that they have pain on the left side.THAT I recomend them TO SEE and look into PROTOZOAS, BABS diferent strains, toxa, plasmodiums strains , tryponasomas and things like that .

Ironicly you will not find them by blood test.In my case I find them again at my hands and feet and they are still in the brain -lower thank good in the liver but if somebody will take my blood test now..THEY WILL NOT SEE a thing if they get it from my arm.

That is when they are wrong.I need to be in this treatment for at least 7 weeks -based on the consistant answer I get before reaching this exstremeties and killed them off there to the maximum( there is never 100% but I am shooting to the closest SCORE ).

I am not letting them regroup.

ALSO noticed that ( I still use RIFING to reach the skin layers and top of head) that every frequency of BABS that was 60-80 minutes testing 1 months ago for me -Now is down to 10 average....So thumbs up to RIFE that is still reaching the free forms only .

I have insisted on cleaning the body by steps colon , kidney and than LIVER .SOmebody mentioned MERCURY .In no way you want to treat mercury without opening up this 3
above and have a clean liver from most of the TICK borne illneses and parasites.

GETTING THEM ALL is imposible( even though I am not for harmony ) but freeing this organs before you attempt to deal with mercury and pulling it -for me is wrong .You do not want to dump some more mercury on top of what you already have so is a BIG NO NO .

They should be on TOP form to work before you dump more things and your gut should be healed before you through metals in there and redistribute them into the brain .

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Marnie, I'm sorry as well for what you and your daughter are going through. Your daughter is blessed to have you as a mom.

Tracy, I missed the posts for a while and am skimming.. I hope you are feeling better.

Selma, I will contact you off list. Thank you.

I've missed alot.. you all are fantastic and fascinating people... I'll be reading more thoroughly when I feel better.

I have my results from my first zyto. I have too much ammonia that needs to be addressed before we start methylation support.

Bb and fungus are my biggest issues today. Babesia was not. Mildly effected by bartonella. Virus in brain. Strep in gut. Mostly fungus messing up my intestinal immunity. The list goes on.

The focus for now is to address ammonia (probably spelling wrong) and fungus and when ammonia is cleared enough, move into methylation support.

I plan to take the yaskow panel. I am tired of guessing and need the concrete support.

I am finding my muscle testing md has not been asking the "right" questions. It seems she has been bandaiding and I dont see how she did not get the fungus, which I believe to be true and have instinctually thoght this since I began Bb treatment and had fungus patches pop out on my legs (as if instinct has anything to do with that.. and as if my doctors believed me, not.)

I am angry, which showed up on the zyto as well. Phenols, some amino acid that begins with a P.. I get the report tonight. My gut, immunity, ammonia, Bb control I think will be the focus for now. No glaring parasite issue. Did have a microscopic parasite show up as an issue.. no report in hand to refer to. No big liver or gallbladder issue but pretty glaring spleen problem.

I was convincing myself Bb was not my biggest issue and it may not be.. fungus showed as my biggest.. but I was almost convinced I have no Bb, but babesias.

It seems some of us (I cant be the only one?) have some real foundation work to build on before we can go on a pathogen killing spree.

I knew this all along. I knew this. That is why I have been spinning for the past year not commiting to any treatment.

I dont even think a liver cleanse is a good thing for me right now. Nothing to stress my system.

I genetically am not to take progesterone (cytochrome P 450 pathway does not metabolize it well), but this month without it has ripped me apart emotionally. I hope the pregesterone is the synthetic one and not the bioidentical one. I think I need this. I'm a wreck.

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Marnie saying prayers for your daughter's health.

R62 I hope you feel better soon.

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I agree with you Alv! It's weird how these things seem to affect on side over the other. Most of my problems are on the right side.

I'm herxing quite a bit today so I''m not going to write a long post. I have started taking Nutramedix Quina with the other herbs & supplements. It's really kicking some butt. I only took 5 drops.

I haven't had symptoms of the co-infections but it doesn't mean I don't have them. I just don't seem to be affected with the symptoms. I'm not sure what Quina is killing but it's hitting something. Guess I'll have to cut it back.

Take care everyone.

PS - R62 - Take a look at this.

Lyme toxins the primary cause of your symptoms!

Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients , April, 2007 by David A. Jernigan

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_285/ai_n19170382/

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Any thoughts on a zyto result for retrovirus HTLV-1 and pseudmonas aeruginosa (intestinal only i hope)?

I found an article that blue and infrared light killed the PA in vitro.

http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/pho.2006.24.680

Are there nosodes for these things?

Thank you lymeberry and sparkle.:-)

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You all are inspiring me. I'm looking forward to Hulda's protocol, when the timing is right.

Did a fine footbath last night for my cracked and fungal harboring feet. Used magnesium sulfate, Real Salt, and some colloidal silver. Not much can live in that mix, and my feet are noticeably better today.

I also dropped in the electrodes to my Sota Pulser that runs on a 9V battery. Our om meter showed .03V (not much) but it was fun to add a lttle technology. I'll repeat, and see how it goes.

The homemade nosode of mold etc. air sample used with biophotons seems to be doing me some good. I am committed to sticking to just this nosode alone for at least a week. I don't even know all of what might be in that air sample after all.

I have a habit of blasting away with everything I can get my hands on, and then paying the price.

I am using the PE-1 while standing up and using the lean forward/lean back method of dousing. I ask whether or not an area would benefit from light, and then how long. I continue to use this kind of light at level 10 for about 8 minutes total. I worked on standard placements, and also lungs, liver, and GI.

When motivated, I change to Nogier settings appropriate for each placement. When too tired to douse that carefully, I just use direct mode.

Woke up this morning with aching kidneys - probably from dehydration. The rest of me aches a whole lot less than it was before, since beginning to treat the mold. I feel almost good again, although still too tired.

I also know I've got Babesia back. That was a surprise. But I'm ignoring it until I get these mycotoxins to back way down. I'm nearly there, I think.

So next is to follow everybody's advice and clear the liver.

Also deal with allergies. I'm inspired by Selma's allergy work.

Marnie, sorry to hear about your daughter. Sounds maybe like a pituitary adrenal axis problem affecting the thyroid.

Does she have a candida load? Has she had her hormone levels checked by somebody who does natural replacement. I hope you and she find some good answers!

Hang in there Robin, Sparkle, everybody!

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I'm re-doing my website. I'm going to try to archive this thread when I have some time. I'll repost it there - I hope it won't be a problem with copywrite.

PS - Bejoy - I always craved iced green tea when I was using the infrared light. I'm not sure why... maybe it has electrolites or some trace mineral I needed. I must have drank gallons of it...

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Marnie, very sorry your daughter has chronic problems, now worsened by a medication that should never have been prescribed for her..... [Frown]

You said that it was the Yasmin that triggered this downturn and that was over a year ago? And now she has hyperkalemia? That is very frightening.

If medical docs can't seem to come up with solutions, maybe it is time to seek some alternative testing and treatment methods.

I don't know if you are interested, Marnie, and it's a bit of a `shot in the dark', but my first suggestion is to make a remedy out of the Yasmin to counter/antidote the ill effects of the drug. Even though it has been quite awhile since this all got started, there's still a chance that it will work. If you know exactly what caused the problem, then that is often the remedy that will `cure' it - in homeopathic form.

If you don't know someone with a Remedy Maker, here's how to make your own remedy:
http://www.hpathy.com/papersnew/lewis-make-own-remedy.asp

I'd make at least a 24x (or 12C) potency.

Or, you might consider making a remedy out of your daughter's blood or saliva - those body fluids should carry the information needed to treat the underlying problem. (You only need a drop or two of blood.)

I'm unable to find hyperkalemia or `excess potassium' in my main Repertory book, but under `potassium poisoning', most of the remedies listed are homeopathic potassium salts or compounds; therefore, it is likely that one of these `potassium' remedies could treat your daughter's problem, depending on her symptoms.

It's also possible that a certain Cell Salt (or more than one) could make a huge difference here - a way to use miniscule mineral doses to trigger discharge of toxic substances and achieve balance of fluids and minerals in and around the cells. Even with the symptoms you described, though, I couldn't see anything definite to work with in my books.

Besides homeopaths - and some of them can work with you or your daughter online rather than in person - there are a lot of other practitioners out there.

For instance, I'm considering going to a BioMeridian practitioner near here. I was talking to a chiropractor I know the other day, and she told me that the BioMeridian testing showed a major mold problem in her whole family. They didn't know they had a mold problem in their house. But they found the problem, eliminated the source, and then got treatment from the practitioner. She said everyone in her family is now doing great. She couldn't have been more positive about her experience.

Have you investigated some of the Yasmin forums for information? Your daughter is certainly not alone! I ran across one while looking for some homeopathic ideas for you.........

Yasmin Survivors forum:
http://tinyurl.com/qefh5b

There are some options out there, Marnie..... hopefully, this will give you a few ideas.

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Marnie, I'm very sorry to hear about your daughters illness. I'll be praying for her to get well and keep an eye out for anything helpful.

Selma -- The liver is so essential, getting it working properly should involve a strategy of homeopathics and constituents. Do you think you need to address parasites first? I didn't feel I needed, so I went for it. I think my kidneys are the next cleansing battle ground so I'm preparing to do that next.

R62 -- I don't know if you've considered ornithine an amino acid for reducing ammonia. Just something to consider. From what I understand, an under performing liver due to toxic overload is the reason for ammonia build up in the body.

I'll have to read more about the zyto. It look to be an excellent diagnostic piece of equipment.

I've felt well but recently I've been getting very fatigued. I'm definitely putting out toxins. I'm testing positively for binders again, lots of them. I'm going to have to continue supporting the liver and the kidneys. During this time, so I've put away any killers.

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Sparkle, that's funny about the green tea. I've been drinking iced green tea by the gallon this week, something I have never had a desire for before. I make it with fresh ginger, lemon juice, and agave.

My PE-1 update -

Woke up with the herx pain. It's the all over stiff muscle pain that goes with congested lymph. Silly me, I didn't use my Systemic Drainage vial with my last two sessions. Didn't think I'd need it, but now I do. That vial has entirely prevented herx symptoms in the past. It has been a magic bullet for me.

This air sample remedy is really working! It's the one I made on my remedy maker from an air sample of the worst mold locations in my house. I put it in the machine and potentised it to a series remedy that tested good for me.

The best way I can tell I am getting results, besides the herx symptoms, are that I suddenly have no more sores in my nose, and my bladder symptoms have decreased again. Those are my biggest tell-tale signs for candida, molds, fungals, and mycotoxins in my body. Those symptoms have been persistent since mold came up into the house from storage.

Clearly, in my case, the biphoton therapy is effective with bacterials and fungals.

Now, how to get probiotics into my entire system, and not just the gut??? I'm thinking probiotics must do almost as much as the immune system to fight off invaders throughout the body.

Robin, in my experience, an energy remedy can be made for anything you can get a testing vial for, if you can't find the nosodes. Ergopathics.com has almost anything you have ever heard of. If they don't have it, they can sometimes get it.

When I get through this mold piece, I'll give a full report on my copiers, as so many people have requested more information. I have to be super-clear to do that kind of testing and comparison.

Bob, sorry to hear you are fatigued again, but sounds like you are making more forward progress. There will be more good kayaking days in your future!

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Daughter just found out she has a thyroid cyst - 4mm.

Severe dry eyes, photophobia, vertigo (ears), neck "cracks" (Nitric oxide), sore throat, kidney pain, urethra stenosis (had to be dilated because of constriction - ouch)... all because

Yasmin is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE GIVEN TO ASTHMATICS.

I'm livid.

We often have harmless cysts elsewhere (not cancerous) as a result of

LOW Mg levels.

They often show up in our kidneys. Google: kidney cysts.

Genetically triggered (!), she is overproducing too many cytokines (as her bro does).

It appears (since albuterol = Ventolin rescues her) that she is

resistant to an arginine deficiency.

Ventolin (used as an inhaler for asthma attacks) works by ***helping potassium go into the cells***.

Her Th1 pathway is dominant and this impacts her ability to use the Th2 pathway to deal with molds (her allergy trigger).

She is "estrogen dominant" and her bro's testosterone level is sky high.

In some ways those hormones are protective since they look to impact PKC (activate).

You know this puts them at greater RISK for breast and prostate cancer, respectfully.

Too much inflammation -> increased need for the ANTI-Inflammatory, Mg.

She had to have IV Mg 5 years ago to halt premature labor (her system via too much inflammatory cytokines is "hostile" to a fetus).

She OVERPRODUCED serotonin and had hyperemesis for many months (Rx $$$ Zofran) Serotonin -> melatonin to try to deal with too friggin much "oxidative stress" going on which is triggered by the inflammatory cytokines. Too many oxygen free radicals which look for something to lock onto like N -> too much NO = nitric oxide.

I can't tell you how angry I am at her doctor for giving her Yasmin since it clearly says it is NOT to be given to asthmatics.

Same OB-GYN who Rx'd: brethine when she was 8 mos. pregnant, which is a KNOWN NEUROTOXIN and can cross the barrier.

This is a doc she trusted.

I prayed a lot.

Grandaughter was preemie and had lots of prob. - pyloric stenosis followed by post op infection...had to be on very $$$$ formula.

Seems okay now (age 5). Kids are very resiliant.

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Thanks for your encouragement bejoy and bob.. I have ornithine and just purchased a yasko supp called Bh4.

I also am ordering l-citrilline and considering yucca and Jernigans formula.

Anyone dealt with Brucella? It came up a bigger stressor than Bb. My gut is so wrecked I cant comprehend how I can take abx, esp when the antifungals are metabolized through my screwed up cytochrome p450 pathway. Zyto says many clostridias, steps, pseudonoma, many yeasts, candidas.. I dont doubt at least some of this is true, not sure how much is out of balance, though.

A little scared.. anyone with perspective to share here or PM would be appreciated.

I know there is a desbio series for brucella. EBV a backgorund player. Ehrichilosis. Babs and bart were not stressors this round.

I was advised to spend some time mopping up ammonia, building immunity, addressing dopamine which we think may not be registering at receptor (homeopathic desbio), addressing candida and gut bacteria.

We talked of the clark cleanse and Dr chrisotphers to prepare for that. I would do paraste even if the buggers did not show up on the zyto. I wont play with that. But prob not a good idea to put out more ammonia by killing them before we get what I have mopped up and learn what supp works best for me.

I'm bitting the bullet and ordering the methylation panel. Looks like some of us just cant simply (haha) kill lyme.

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This single thread at LN has SO much information - it's almost overwhelming!

Hey, that's an interesting Tooth Chart, Bob. I may have to print that one out.... thanks.

Sparkle, that would be terrific if you could figure out how to archive this thread on your website (though I didn't know you had a website?). This thread is getting so big, it needs it own Search Engine.

Selma, I wonder if the 100 succussions is too much for the C potencies? Could that be why they seem too strong for you? Maybe 40 succussions for C potencies and 100 succussions for the D (X) potencies?

Joey, I'm another one with a CFS label (though it came after the Fibro label), and my red blood cells deteriorate rapidly, too (darkfield microscope - live blood analysis). Interesting what you stated about the anaerobic metabolism....

pH balance and acidity are subject to mineral/electrolyte balance. The minute you get excited over something, it upsets the mineral balance in your body. (Where did I just read about that?) And I found that what Selma said is true - too many alkaline foods or supps ingested cause alkalinity of the stomach, when in fact I need more acid there. So, it's a tough balancing act.

IMHO, though we may have `adrenal exhaustion' or `adrenal insufficiency', our adrenal glands are probably the ultimate culprit in this whole dance. It's a Catch-22; we boost our immunity in some way, only to have our immune system get shut off when our adrenal glands get stronger and start functioning! No wonder we can't get rid of the bugs.

I saw a quote the other day that explained it rather simply. I think it's something we've all heard before but we tend to focus on treating the result of the problem and not dealing with the cause. And in a sense, we have no choice because the cause is elusive in that it encompasses a sphere or plane that goes beyond the physical.

This quote is actually copyrighted, but I'm going to take a chance that this person won't get upset if I post what he said. The quote is from Peter Chappell, someone I've been watching with interest for the past couple of years. He's created resonance remedies for specific conditions (including Lyme) which he says are neither homeopathic (in the strict sense) nor are they `radionic'. But he won't tell how he makes them. I guess you could call Peter an ultimate `mongrel' homeopath. - he's definitely a mixed breed.

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Chronic Alarm

The body has two defense systems, the external defense system and the inner defense system. One protects from the outside threats and is commonly called the fight, flight and freeze system (FFFS), and one which protects from inside threats and is commonly called the immune system. When the FFFs is activated it shuts down the immune system.... Simply put, the two don't operate together, its one or the other. However we are chronically in an alarmed state.

The external threats defense system is brilliant when you are confronted with say a hungry lion.... However there are not many lions about. But in our present world there are many long-range threats -- epidemic diseases and constant wars and many fears about daily life and our survival and our job, and the external threat system has been over stimulated into a chronic alarm state in most people including athletes. We are in effect living on the edge, as if life is threatened. We are living in a constant chronic alarm as if they are going to be eaten by a hungry lion and we never really calm down.

An example of this is when communism ended in East Germany where there was a huge industrial pollution but jobs for life for everybody, and guaranteed security. The illness rate in the population was about 4%. Whereas in West Germany it was 16%. Since the collapse of communism the illness rate has shot up to 16% even though most of the terribly polluting industries have been shut down. This shows what is really important; communism - for all its faults - provided a safety net for everybody and capitalism is much more like the law of the jungle, a question of survival, and is a far less safe feeling system.

So it's not the pollution that's really the big problem it's the lack of security and the fighting to survive that is the most important factor. Fighting to survive activates the chronic alarm system which in turn switches off a lot of immunity and the illness rate rises dramatically -- 4 times! Which means that much of the whole population is living on its nerves. This is the situation in which most people now live -- it's unhealthy -- and it's capitalism under which most people now live.

This has the effect of stopping the immune system especially in the creation of life-sustaining energy and reserves and to the extent we are alarmed, shuts down a lot of important body systems and reduces our energy.

Peter knows what he is talking about. His AIDs `remedy' that is working so well in Africa did not work well in Europe and America. He had to develop a second AIDs remedy for use in Westernized societies.

It's one thing to worry about having ANY clothes to put on your back; it's quite another to be concerned with fashion or designer labels and what people might think if you wear clothes from Kmart, etc. These are the `little' stressors we put on ourselves in lieu of `the lion'. Some people seem to thrive no matter what the stress is, but others just don't. To some, it's the stress-equivalent of little micro-factures in the bones, or micro-tearing of muscles and tendons...... nothing that can be seen, but it's damage that can't heal under constant stress.

So, once again, it comes back to US as being the problem, not so much what we encounter in life. There is no blame here - we inherited certain traits of personality that cause us to `feel too much' on some level. We've got to figure out how to free ourselves from `the Western lion' that begins to shape our future the minute we are born, IMHO.

Meanwhile, we kill bugs and detox and promote drainage and chelate and bind and excrete and sweat..... all essential unless - or until - we can find some way to detach from the stressors that make this all necessary.

Maybe the `universal treatment' is photons + tautopathic Valium. [Smile]

BTW, Peter Chappell is offering a free Swine Flu remedy that you simply download to your computer, if anyone is interested......
http://www.healingdownloads.com/

His other website (I don't benefit from any of this, BTW):
http://www.vitalremedies.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=a5da2045ddbdc8074583b493bcadf5fa

Selma, I hadn't thought about mercury toxicity mimicking so many other conditions..... but it makes perfect sense. Syphilis was the original `great imitator' of other diseases, so it makes sense that early on, the main treatment for Syphilis was with a `like remedy' - Mercury. I'd never made that connection before, but it's there.

Oh, Robin - YOU must have been where I heard about the Zyto machines first..... I knew it sounded familiar.....

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I posted this on another thread that died, but I thought it was worth mentioning here....

I ran across this at the Frequency Foundation - people who use various machines and frequencies for treatment, etc. I have no idea where the information came from, but the reference to Lyme and Plum Island caught my eye.

quote:
Swine Flu Update 30 Apr 2009
Frequency Foundation ongoing research indicates that there are three virus strains circulating. Two variants of swine flu and one of bird flu. This may account for mixed genetic material seen in viruses cultured by other researchers. The frequencies appear to be the same as one of the many hundreds of viruses that those infected with Lyme disease have been fighting for years with minor changes.

So they are likely variants of the many viruses studied and released into the atmosphere at the Plum Island laboratory through decades of violation of EPA safety regulations. At least one United Nations expert thinks these viruses were produced in a lab....
http://frequencyfoundation.com/

So, what I get from this is that the frequencies of the current flu bugs going around are very similar to the co-infections that Lymies have been dealing with for years? Hmmm.

Re Babesia: (maybe I asked this already)....

Has anyone tried or tested homeopathic Cinchona (may be labeled as China-officinalis in many homeopathic books) - the source of quinine?

How about a homeopathic version of Artemisinin (Artemisia-annua)?

Anybody looked at Crotalus-horridus for Babs?

It was successful in clearing Babs from dogs in a trial in India:
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/62384?

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If anyone needs to contact Dr Woitzel, his phones are down as he moves his office, but his fax is 49 7231 428880 and his temp email is [email protected]

I just returned from Germany and anyone can email me with questions. [email protected]

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