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thank you very much.... I think i am going to try it!!
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Gigi, I have printed out every bit of info I could get may hands on from the translated site and from the German site using a translator. I appreciate the direction, which I followed months ago.
I will go look for the sample report and see if that helps. Thats probably the best guide I can have.
I do not appreciate the implication that I am a naysayer, doubter etc. No way did I put that out and no way will I take that on.
Asking questions does not mean one is challenging and if one is for the sake of learning thats ok too. I do not like the idea of generalizing folks who do have questions as naysayers and doubters... not that there is a thing wrong with doubting.
For the sake of arguing, thats another matter.
Ive taken the NMT to another thread where folks who are using it (or interested in it) can talk about it.
If we need to create another thread for those who have questions about how AI works, perhaps we can do that too. What do you think?
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Gigi, thanks for sharing what info you have. None of us should expect you to do more than this as you are just using the product not producing it.
I did not see Gigi use anyone's name or make any implications, I read what she wrote as a generalization that she wishes not to get caught up in any disagreements due to her experiences in the past and why should she?
I'm sure some questions we have can only be fully answered by those producing these drops.
I'm very interested in seeing where this treatment takes you all.
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No ones name has to be said. I did not expect Gigi to answer or anyone else. I hoped someone could answer.
I am familar with the dynamics.
It is OK to ask questions without others throwing out words such as naysayer or doubters which in context by nature imply.
If anyone has concerns about my intent, they can ask me personally. If someone wishes to draw boundaries with posters in general, do so in a separate post. Thank you.
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R62, I have never accused you of anything. What's bothering you? You seem to complain about me on other threads. I have tried to answer as best as I can every question you have directed at me also in previous threads. I can't do more. So please leave me in peace.
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Troy, thank you. My husband is definitely showing improvements as I posted earlier. AI is as hopeful on the old as it is on everyone else. They told me yesterday that they have had a few very difficult similar clients and why shouldn't their therapy work -- just because he is a little older? No, it will just take a little longer. They hope and so do I.
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Ping, it is not necessary for you to order a test kit. It is much quicker if you just order the test, if that is what you decide, and send them a couple of drops of saliva on a small piece of tissue, fold a small piece of foil around it, put it in a snack baggie and mail in a letter envelope stamped with 94 cents, marked AIRMAIL. Maybe have it weighed at the post office. You can order the test only or the whole therapy. A friend of mine is making it in two payments because of short funds.
Enclose one sheet with your name, age, address, etc. and tell them how you intend to pay. AND TELL THEM SOME OF YOUR MAJOR SYMPTOMS IN FEW WORDS. That's what we did and it saved us waiting 2-3 more extra weeks. Sometimes it takes 10-12 days just to get overthere, and of course the same coming back, and somtimes it took less than two weeks for both the saliva sample sending and then getting the bottle back. The post since DHL is no longer doing the US portion for the German Post is unpredictable.
Good luck in your decision-making.
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Is anyone following the advice that came with the drops to eat sugary ad carbonated drinks and sweetened apple sauce etc?
Since I am prone to candida and am sugar-intolerant, I'm reluctant to do this: what is the rationale for it, does anyone know?
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Gigi, if you have read the my threads more thoroughly, you will see that I have taken up for someone that was not being heard in my opinion and that I also took up for you on the bionic thread and the other thread you are referring to.
What praytell have I directed at you on previous threads?
Leave you alone? You are good at playing victim and not taking responsibility for your words.
Leave you alone? I will be more than happy to "leave you alone."
(excuse me, that was "leave you in peace")
Gigi, I am not sure if my questions were ever directed at you for you to answer, just anyone.
Sometimes my questions are answered and sometimes not. Thats how it goes. I appreciate when you have answered my questions, no doubt. I so not appreciate the way you have on a few occasions, as in the time you almost chastized me to "go do my homework" and put some effort into it after seemingly un beknownst to you I had been searching the archives for hours. You can be rude and meanspirited as well as helpful and kind.
I understand that you have a long history here and that it has not always been easy for you. I'm sorry that happened. You stuck it out in those times, and I can see why you have the respect from others than you have.
I am not a fighter. I do not argue for the sake of arguing.
I will draw boundaries.
You have no clue who I am and what I stand for personally and obviously choose not to hear when others (like me) have taken up for you, not that anyone is obligated to.
All you hear is when you not been taken up for. I see both sides, Gigi, and I will not take one side over another for the sake of it.
I really dont want to post on this thread anymore.
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The colon needs different kinds of liquids to function properly.
He speaks of carbonated mineral water frequently as different substances in water change its behavior.
"Non-carbonated mineral water does not satisfy the colon's water demand."
Fruit juice, soups, stewed fruit, apple sauce all supply different forms of liquid. He does mention them always being sugared - soups salted.
I'm not sure why the sugar but I wonder if maybe he feels that this is also a food that shouldn't hurt us cooked in foods, when things are operating properly.
If you can't tolerate it I'm guessing that unsweetened applesauce if fine. Bottom line I think is to take in plenty of liquids in forms other than just plain water.
R62 - chemicals are addressed as chemicals. Sometimes they are named and sometimes not.
Miasms are listed, energetic blockages as well as where they are located. Inherited toxins, inherited unresolved emotional traumas as well as ones we've collected on our own.
The initial test results are very in depth and specific. Hope this helps.
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Thank you for explaining, NanaDubo:
I think I'll give sugar a miss on the first round and maybe try it on round 2.
I find myself naturally wanting to eat food much more salted than how I liked it years ago when in better health, so that won't be a problem for me, though I see your difficulty, Ping.
By the way, Ping, did you ever try hawthorn for your hypertension?
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For anyone with systemic candida, I would be hesitant to follow those "sugary" recommendations. I'm (tentatively) done with AI, and I still have systemic candidiasis. In fact, it's the one type of pathogen I'm consistently testing for now. Especially for those with CFS symptoms--our bodies are relying on anaerobic metabolism and hence produce tons of lactic acid. This is a vicious cycle that leads to acidosis and fosters growth of candida. A few weeks of AI drops will not change that. A few months down the line, maybe.
If you feel hypoglycemic, it may mean that your pancreas isn't working. It produces not only insulin to break down sugar into energy but glucagon to break down glycogen into glucose. Because of the strain on ATP production, our pancreas is stretching itself thin trying to pump out sugar and glycogen for energy production. Support the pancreas, and you may find relief. Pancreatic glandulars are an option, and I take CCK, which stimulates production of enyzmes by the pancreas--which also reminds me:
you need proper enzyme support to oxidize nutrient molecules to a form that can be converted to energy by mitochondria. This is a commonly overlooked step in energy production. For many, Betaine-HCL and a complete plant enzyme complex (I use quantum digest) is a must
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Below is some of the text that comes with the English version when you get your 16 page test results. The instructions come with the test results, nothing in the test kit. I made my own as I described somewhere above. They are economizing as best they can to keep the price affordable; that is what I assume being familiar with German mentality. Thinking green.
Joey, I heard year after year after year by Dr. K., that as long as the excess metals are in the body, the body will produce fungi to protect itself from the damage by the metals. A systemic fungi problem will take months to disappear, once the dysregulations re fungi/mold/penicillin, etc., has been lifted usually with the first drops. I think that will take time - the body is working. My husband's only fungal toenail is already growing out healthy started on the third month of drops. But I am sure internally it will take longer. He had a bad (silent) case of aspergillus, etc. etc. and was not able to deal with any fungi or penicillin, etc. Ai found him to be allergic to all of them. All tests from Lyme people that I have seen or heard about are allergic/blocked to most fungi types at DNA.
Re Enzymes: If you get your test back, many I have seen, including my husband's, show an energetic blockage, an "Enzyme Dysfunction", at DNA. That alone will explain many of our problems with metabolism. Encymes are the catalysts for chemical reactions. They are in all cells of the body and are specific to the different organ systems. If these don't work, not much else will work too well.
Here is the text re food and drink. I think I posted a couple of months ago that I was told by AI that drinking water by the quart or gallon is not the best idea because it runs straight through. I have had similar input from Dr. K. I am sure some people saw Dr. Oz's test with water drinking by twins (on Oprah). Fazit: whether you drink a ton or none of plain water - no difference in the test results
They recommend to satisfy the different compartments of the digestive tract to use foods that contain a lot of liquids. Nano mentioned it well. Then the different digestive sections have something to work with besides water using different consistencies - mushes, soups, juices of all kinds.
When they mention the word "sugary" I know that they are not talking about the "sugary" part of canned fruits as they are available in the US. My mother used to put up fruits for the winter, and the liquid contained barely a trace of sugar and of course the juices of the fruits. That is what they are referring to -- not the syrup type. It's hard to keep the true meaning when translating into another language.
Most German household unless they are very poor have a box of mineral water supply in the cellar or other cool place. There are so many natural water wells supplying different mineral waters depending on the area, all over the country - that is the water they are referring to. They all contain different levels of minerals and everyone swears by the one that helps him/her to have a good BM every day, etc.
I don't think AI is talking about Gatorade or soft drinks loaded with artifical flavors, chemicals and sugar.
As children and adults we used to take a basket of empty bottles and take a hike 15 km away to the nearest Bad (bath) something, usually also the name of the city or town. We had a good long drink and then filled the bottles and carried them home. Often the fountain spitting out this water is in the middle of town, the market place. It is still that way in many of the smaller towns. People spend their vacations drinking the waters there and over the years, decades, centuries, the towns turned into resorts for vacationers. ********************************************
This is a part of the Instructions that come with the test results - which in total is a 16page report:
PSP-Therapy Instructions
As a result of any measure aimed at strengthening the immune system, the activity of the immune system increases - as intended - and a lot more additional harmful substances are made available for elimination. If the elimination capacity is not sufficient - or if it is reduced - side effects occur that actually can become dangerous. Also, the patient may mis-interpret the situation: ''This does not agree with me...'' It is logical, although often ignored that the elimination of harmful substances and toxins can occur only through excretion. This is mainly excretion through urine and colon, in addition there are transdermal excretion (not only sweat) and excretion via tear fluid and nasal discharge. The role of vomiting or coughing
A prerequisite .for excretion is a sufficient supply of water, salt and alkaline pH. If these prerequisites are not met, the excretion of harmful substances is not possible. A typical consequence is an overload of the lymphatic system with swelling in the lymphatic areas, fluid deposits in tissue, especially in joints, feeling of being bloated and without energy and of having limited motility. In addition, skin imperfections can occur.
`Hay fever' - often mis-diagnosed as an allergy - is only the body's attempt to eliminate via nasal discharge the pollen it has identified as intolerable. In case of liquid or salt deficiency or if the body is in the basic area, the body cannot make available enough nasal discharge for excretion; the result is 'dry rhinitis (Schnupfen )' and the alarm cry 'allergy'. Usually one would have watery eyes and a 'full nose' for a couple of hours. That would be it, however, to get rid of the rhinitis, the nose is `dried' (trockengelegt) and the fluid supply reduced...
According to a US study 75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated, numbers for Germany should be similar. Even minor dehydration slows down the metabolism by 3%; water deficiency is the number one cause of tiredness during the day.
Eliminating dehydration reduces the risk of colon cancer, breast cancer and bladder carcinoma by 45%, 79% and 50%, respectively.
The first question is how to recognize dehydration. Dehydration is present if the objectives of the human fluid balance cannot be achieved. The human fluid balance functions on several levels, which facilitates the diagnosis of dehydration:
1. First the body tries to maintain the stability of the cardio-vascular system by keeping the required volume of liquid within this system. 2. On the next level, the fluid serves as a means of transport to ensure supply to the body's cells. 3. Any liquid not used for this is excreted, with harmful substances being transported in the excrements.
Problems usually occur in step 2 or 3, especially with excretion, as this occurs on different levels and this is where the first symptoms of insufficient fluid supply occur. Ophthalmologists often detect the symptoms of dehydration at a very early stage, as tear fluid also is a discharge and the eye is supplied with liquid via capillary vessels. However as they are not dehydration specialists, their recommendation 'You need to drink more' usually is ignored.
One symptom of dehydration is that the natural feeling of thirst disappears, another is a certain aversion to increased hydration and the third the habit of drinking unsuitable beverages.
Additional substances in the water change the behavior. Even spring water with suspended mineral particles remains in the body about twice as long, and together with the suspended particles parts of the fluid are separated and discharged via the colon. If the ph value is reduced, we have a sufficiently agreeable tolerable beverage. This is almost the case with non-carbonated mineral water if we ignore the suspended particles. Because of this, non-carbonated mineral water does not satisfy the colon's water demand.
Please ensure sufficient hydration. Carbonated and sugary beverages and juices should be included. Add soups (well salted), mash[7] and stewed fruit or apple sauce - always sugared (canned with sugar).
Bioenergetic Therapies and Diets
Bioenergetic therapy does not forbid specific foods or recommend avoiding them. It does, however, require the intake of energy-relevant foods.
During this therapy, do not avoid specific foods or substances and do not use supplements. This applies also to the bioenergetic therapy of pseudo-allergies or to 'substances known to be harmful' in case of bioenergetic disorders that where mis-diagnosed as a disease (An example is the so-called celiac disease that has bioenergetic causes and is usually treated by excluding gluten. This, by the way, is also applicable if the bioenergetic diagnosis shows gluten intolerance: This intolerance is already mentally `anchored' and bioenergetically manifested although it is not related to celiac symptoms that potentially can be dissolved on another level.)
Recommendation:
If possible, do not avoid any foods. Exception: during the two weeks you take the drops, you can avoid individual foods known to trigger a reaction. After this time you should begin to eat these again, in particular wheat products, eggs and meat. For good diet recommendations, refer to: http://www.netdoktor.at/Ratschl�ge/fakten/ernaehrungskreis.shtml
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Take care.
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Gosh, this is wonderful information.....
Okay, so salted soups/broths, mashes, somewhat-sugared juices..... but what can we use when we want water that is `hydrating'?
I'm sure they don't mean to buy the American version of bottled, carbonated mineral water..... and the `spring water' we have in bottles here isn't what you would find in Germany.....
...... and is there anything we can do to filtered tap water, reverse-osmosis water, or even distilled water so that it will hydrate us? Just adding minerals to water doesn't seem to work (if I read the information correctly).
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Thank you, Joey and Gigi, for your answers about 'sugary foods'.
I'm sure you're right re.the pancreas, Joey, and I have taken digestive enzymes of one sort or another for the last 10 years; funnily enough I have been thinking of going back to betaine-HCL as well, or maybe apple cider vinegar or licorice before meals.
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Truthfinder - many grocery stores or health food stores sell Pellegrino from Italy.
There is also one I get that comes from Germany called Gerolsteiner.
Those two are pretty common in my neck of the woods.
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Thank you, Nana. I wrote both of them on my list. I'll see what we have here.
This is so interesting..... seems like the latest prevailing wisdom is that pure water is the way to hydrate the body, and all other forms of liquid (like juices, herbal teas, soups) are inferior to water in this respect.
The AI folks are proposing just the opposite.
I've been avoiding most forms of liquid other than what we think of as `good water'.... and I'm not getting anything out of it. I'm certainly ready for a new approach.
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I am still in shock today about how nice my fingernails are! This may not sound like a big thing to you all, but for many years, my nails were gradually getting weaker, thinner to the point of almost having no nails. They had been paper thin and would rip from the tip of of my finger, deep into my cuticle, and pull away from my cuticle, with no connective tissue to hold them in place. It is not a fungus. I tried many nail therapies, and every vitamin, and mineral but nothing helped...it has progressively gotten worse, until the AI drops.
I would have to regularly put bandaids on them just to use my hands, so the nails would not rip and bleed if I hit them accidentally. This is very painful and annoying as it affects everything I use my hands for.
About a week ago I noticed the change... They still have not grown all the way to the tip of my fingers...but they feel so strong and look shiney and healthy. I am typing this with a smile on my face..and no broken or hurting fingers! I am in shock..and amazed, as the AI is the only therapy I have been doing! Specifically the past two treatments are focused on chemicals, and this round is unnamed chemicals.
Over the past 20 years, until I became sick with lyme, I have been doing my nails, not being aware of the damage I could have caused myself by the chemical coumpounds. I do feel that these chemicals are being released by the AI.
I am now getting painful, red bumps, on the joints below my fingernails...almost like the toxins are moving there, away from the nail connective tissue.
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How interesting, Lymeparfait, and how nice for you!
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That' great LP!!
I have noticed the same with my fingernails although they weren't paper thin like yours.
Mine had a lot of vertical ridges which are going away. Some fingers more quickly than others.
Truthfinder - if you get stuck and really want these types of water you can order them from water maestro.
I have no affiliation with them.
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Ping, did you use PayPal?
E-mail me and I will call them to see if it got there. If you sent money by mail, it takes approx. ten days going and then ten days for bottle to reach you. Phone number and address is on their website. If you want me to call and ask, let me know. Glad to do it.
Take care.
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Fingernails and hair -- same with us! If that looks this good - wondering what the important insides look!
Relived a pain yesterday in my mid section. Lasted all day. The minute I felt the pain I remembered a visit to two of my aunts when I was eight or nine where I usually got very homesick and felt that same pain. I relived every phase of that stay - the old bakery with my aunts and grandfather and his floury beard - the huge breadbaking oven --. Even though the house was bombed during the war and is no longer standing. The pain is totally gone today.
This was probably one of the pain memories stored in the spine -- as shown in the test results - which has now been lifted. I used to have a lot of back pain in the early Lyme years, but no sign of any in recent years.
Take care.
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I had exema on my lower legs for almost 20 years, If I didnt use this certain lotion after bathing it would quickly come back.I havent needed that lotion for several monthes now, no sign of any exema It's been about the same time I've been doing A1.My fingernails are growing to, I just keep looking at them in admiration !
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LP -
"I am now getting painful, red bumps, on the joints below my fingernails...almost like the toxins are moving there, away from the nail connective tissue."
Whenever I mention anything like this to AI, they suggest increasing fluid intake, to flush things out of cells and rest of body. I posted about type of liquids above.
I cook a lot of broth! Simmer meats, bones, flavoring, a shot of vinegar, for hours. The old stock pot method.
Take care.
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Hypertension?
If you do a search (Suche) on AI with the word "Bluthochdruck", you will come up with six hits where they talk about hyertension.
If you click on the different hit numbers, you could translate with google. I know it balances blood pressure because my husband's has gone from a horribly low of 80-90/45-55 to 120/70's in 5 months or less. I didn't watch it every day, so don't know when it started to improve.
You will note that "Weizenallergie" (wheat allergy) comes up on the search for Hypertension, so you may find some answer there.
Take care.
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Would suggest anyonewho wants to get more details that you translate this checklist. It tells a bunch.
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Thanks for the reminder about increasing the fluid intake... LP
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I should be getting my drops any day noe. Excited more than skeptical cause of all your testimonies.
Is Gigi the first person with Lyme to try this?
Any Lyme testimonies?
I was discouraged that no one has seen a reduction in allergies yet after 6 months.
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Ping, yes, Bluthochdruck means hypertension.
Hobonite, from this group, yes, I believe I told about this therapy when I first heard about it. I s o w i s h I had known about it a long time ago. Actually, this therapy has been 20 years in the making. A senior member of the AI Team started it in the eighties, junior member active and very efficient last 10 years.
The son of the family had debilitating Lyme, was treated when acute, about one month, with abx when he was 17. Not being familiar with the drops at time of infection (became a family member later), he did the drops after abx. He is very well today approx. five years later.
I have yet to hear that AI finds Lyme in their clients. Most the time - not. They are not trying to cure infections. Often only the memory in DNA is left - no active infections. The aim of AI is to straighten out the chaos in the system caused by manmade and some inherited toxins to get the immune system to function on its own again to handle all that comes its way. Much on the emotional levels. Millions of people are infected with Lyme and don't get sick. The aim is to clean up the errors in the software, i.e. the dysregulations, the errors in the DNA. Biochemical malfunctions are often the result of DNA programming errors. The food allergies, fungi, metal allergies are lifted/corrected usually with the first bottle. Then the system can start handling and reacting the way it should, i.e. stop reacting to good natural foods,recognize some of the toxic metals, what to do with the metals that are in the system, and thereby reducing the proliferation of fungi, etc. Read Heavy Metals and Chronic Disease by Dr. K.
Read some of my posts above where I explained that the body cannot possibly remove all neurotoxic substances in one fell swoop. I don't think we would survive that. There are usually no allergies left, unless you take a food that is combined in preparation with a chemical that one is still allergic to ( they refer to it as food relevant allergies). These are removed at every new testing. And there are a minimum of 60,000 chemicals that hit us 24/7, some of them hit us hard.
If you have been ill for say 10 years, it takes about a year for the body to clear out the undesirables and to repair damaged synapses, myelin, nerves, tissue, bone, everything that is affected. In other words, cleaning out the terrain to no longer provide a habitat for tough microorganisms.
Every allergy that I had is gone, except they are still working and finding groups of chemicals and emotional blockages connected with these. There are many layers to this onion - every layer is being searched and addressed. Be patient.
The "feeling good" for some comes right away, for some partially, for some it will take longer. My friend is still battling exzema, but she is no longer allergic to her own cat to have to keep her in the basement. And she has turned into a free person emotionally. Depression gone. for several months now. The system needs time to clear. The skin has been trying for years and since detoxification is starting to function better with the drops, skin problems can get worse at times.
All good things take time.
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About drinking water, last time I saw my MD (lyme specialist, but not total LLMD), he suggested I try drinking "that sparkling water they sell at Costco". (He also though AI sounded like a great idea for me, and he was very interested in the report, results, drops, etc.)
I never go to Costco, and don't know what they sell, so when I asked him for a name he said it's San Pellegrino. I do drink sparkling water occasionally, and always enjoy it, but don't want to drink it all the time due to expense, that fizzy feeling in my throat, and the waste of bottles, fuel for transport, etc.
My MD said though that some of his patients are having good results drinking it.
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Nutmeg, In an earlier post I mentioned that many supermarkets and health food stores sell Pellegrino and a few sparkling waters from Germany.
The fizzy feeling may take some getting used to and yes, there is the expense and the bottles but in trying to stay properly hydrated while doing the drops it may be worth it for a spell.
Just a thought.
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I emailed AI and asked, they said supplements are ok to take. Troy
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Generally, this is what I have been told for several months when the questions arose:
The aim with AI is to eliminate as much of the "materials" that the body does not know to deal with. Highly concentrated manmade vitamins are in that category and not normal to the body. They like it a lot better if we do not use medications and other supplements. It is so expressed in their German literature. If you google/translate, you will undoubtedly find it.
Whatever is needed to stay functional, that is necessary. An asthmatic to survive of course will take whatever is needed to be safe. So with everything else. You will have to be your own judge on that if you think a certain medication or supplement is a must.
Many supplements and fillers don't do much but clog things up - many of us just think we can't survive without them and I learned that nothing is worse than a vitamin that blocks me energetically. We try to use good judgement and take what we think we cannot do without.
I have often talked about taking pharma drugs and supplements with AI, and I have never found the answer to be different than what I am saying here. Of course, it is not helpful to take sixty supplements a day as many have been doing. And since this is not customary in Germany, it is very difficult for them to understand that anyone would be doing this many supplements. I know some people here are doing this, but it will not make the therapy trying to get the regulation back in order easier. Again, I think it's best to use common sense and this is identical to what I have been told when I inquired of AI.
The language barrier is present and it is very easy to misunderstand when one cannot finetune what one is trying to say.
Overall, the less we interfer with what they are trying to do to correct the errors in the electromagnetics, the information system, the quicker and safer it will be. Part of the therapy is a major attempt to clean up some we have caused which the body was never able to deal with, because it does not recognize it thereby only adding even more to the burden of the system.
Take care.
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My daughter is complaining about very severe pain behind her eyes, and pain when she moves her eyes from side to side. almost migraine style pain, but not migraine headaches she says.
I believe Nana and others have posted about painful eye issues during hte initial phases of AI...
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Just a general response:
I have had some pains - that did not last. Some were memories of pain some caused by very old problems, some more recent. If you need a pain pill, so they (AI) say, take one. In the re-regulating process a number of old memories come up. If you read your 16 page report, they are stored in the spine area. They should not last longer than 3-4 days.
Others are toxin caused. My eyes were also very much involved and still are, one day more than the next. It is a long process until the toxins can exit. I have felt it for a day or two, then okay, then another time again. When the toxins are exiting, which is very difficult from the eyes, I also feel it. But it is not anyhing that makes me unhappy --- the opposite -- I am glad it is finally coming out. My husband also has some matter come out through eyes, especially when he wakes in the morning. Sometimes it burns -- most chemicals are not made by man for the eyes.
I also try to stay away from much eye make-up and use only something that I am certain I do not react to. For many women, we are talking chemicals from hairdyes, makeup, cremes with additives and preservatives, shampoo and rinses, all readily absorbed by the skin, etc. It was never meant for our body, and if combined with bacterial and other pathogens, this is what contributed to the overload that finally broke the camel's back. Add a couple root canals, twelve in my case, and I am not surprised at what comes out now. I try to not pay attention to every little pain, because I think it is ppart of the process. In fact, I have clearly been told that at times things can get worse, before they get better. My husband reacts almost within a half hour --- I take one look at him and I know he just took the drops. For him, this route may be the only way out of a bad situation. We try to flow with it.
I try not to use anything that could possibly still be substance my body does not recognize, is still allergic to (in silence), When I get the "all clear - we cannot find any more", I will still be careful. Because they manufacture the chemicals faster than we can possibly adjust to.
Chemicals will show for some for several months and some of them will not be described in detail. There are too many and too many combinations of them. Often emotional blockages are tied to the chemical allergies.
That doesn't mean everyone has to have similar things happen, but if it does to us, I do not worry. Especially the emotions -- they are all over the place - but as long as we recognize that this is part of the process, it is easier to get through. Most of our problems originate with emotions. The biochemical effects are secondary.
Everything has two sides to it: polarities. Every polarity has an opposing polarity. Sun and Moon. Wellness and sickness. Peace and war. Everything has two sides, and if, like in medicine, only one polarity is taken into consideration, i.e. the material/matrix as opposed to the energetic base, this polarity will gain the upper hand. The consequence is disease and mostly chronic disease. There have never been as many diseases that are not curable as today. AI is trying to bring back the opposing polarity. These are laws of nature - whether one wants to believe it or not. Balance. We do have a choice - and isn't it nice.
Just rambling and not read.
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I like teh cat testimony. That to me is a strong one.
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Hobo, maybe you should try google/translate the second story on here - I know the person and this is how I first realized that AI would be something I should pay attention to.
My friend, who now can tolerate her cat, is the most honest and realistic person ever. I take every word she says as the truth.
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Although I like people testimony better than animal ones. The animal ones show that this is no placebo eefect! I hope I get my drops tommorow!
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I finally translated most of the posts from the AI site with translate.google.com. Very interesting questions and responses.
There was even one about the nail problems resolved.
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I just sent in my sample to get Round 7. It seems that Rounds 5 and 6 were not as notable in terms of fatigue, dreams, etc. Could be a sign that I am getting close to done. We'll see. Still excited about this therapy!
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I just got my test results today. I am a darn MESS!!! Not much that isn't blocked.
The energetic blockages in my spine are dead on where my test results/discomfort is. Eerie. I mean perfectly to the disc!
I have not decided if I'm ready to shell out the big $$$ for the drops. It's a big leap.
Allergic to wheat, corn and soy. I cut out wheat, but substituted with tons of corn/soy before. ALL my supplements have soy...hmmm.
Metals that show up are lead, nickel, and copper.
Genetic weaknesses are syphillis and tuberculinum??? Not sure what this means.
Blocked glands are pineal, thyroid, and pancreas.
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Just to finally have useful fingernails again without pain and bleeding is well worth the therapy cost to me!
This tangible and functional regulation was so amazing to me that I do expect that other things have happened already internally that cannot be detected by sight, and may never be felt physically, but will help my body be able to heal itself naturally of many of my disregulations, finally.
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I want to try this but I am a little worries that every body's test results seem to be almost identical as far as metals, food allergies, and these miasms of Syphillis and TB.... Can some one enlightem me because I am about to order a test RIGHT NOW.... I just cannot be ripped off anymore... I have been ripped off of SO much money from SO many treatments, doctors and practioners... I just don;t think I could go through that trauma again...
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I know it's personal, but I'd sure like to see people post their report specifics here to compare 10-15 of them. I too am concerned about that UnexpectedIlls.
The fact is picked up no viruses also is concerning KNOWING I have them.
There's always a chance for a rip-off. When a company can't physically explain how their product works, that's a tough sell.
I've grown so very wary of alternative medicine and the stuff I read here. There are a few avid supporters that seem to endorse all alternative and believe these treatments/products bring them one step closer to better health. There are others who publicly state they do not notice any benefits from any of them. The extremes are so much. You don't see middle of the roaders often.
The problem with any alternative (and maybe commercial labs) is they don't use healthy controls enough. Labs like Fry, Igenix, Diagnos-Techs, Neuroscience, and maybe AI probably do not test healthy people and compare to sick people due to lack of $$$ (reason supplied) or whatever reason. I firmly believe these labs should be FORCED to do this and audited by third parties consistently to prove their methodology. If results of sick people = healthy people for the most part, the tests have no validity.
All I know is there is a LOT of $$$ to be made by people/companies from sick, desparate people. It saddens me greatly.
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IMO, I don't think that you will be protected by the FDA or the pharmaceutical/medical establishment either. Is there really a reason that a course of some anitibiotics should cost thousands of dollars? I'm afraid money is very much a motivating factor here.
I saw a documentary of some hearing where the FDA was being taken to task for accepting studies from pharmaceutical companies to approve drug use and disregarding independant studies that came to an opposite conclusion. Wish I could remember the name, maybe it was Frontline or something.
They were also chastized for failing to show safety of drugs prescribed to children as they don't require proof they are just allowed to say the effects on children are unknown.
Recently we have seen the results of children poisoned with cough syrups and medicines which have been allowed for years until finally the damage was just too much to ignore. How many parents trusted these medicines as safe.
The whole system is inadequate and open to corruption and after being made sicker by it, I prefer to trust my own gut about things.
As far as AI drops not showing viruses, I thought I read somewhere in here that subsequent testing after your first round of drops will bring up other things needing to be addressed. Like revealing in layers what you need to work on. Correct me if I have misunderstood this.
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I hear you, Ping. I'm sure 7 yrs. of antibiotics must have cost you a fortune and what a shame it hasn't done what you hoped it would.
At that point what can you do but try other things?
I read on lymenet somewhere a post from someone who was about to lose their house due to the cost of several years of medical & antibiotic treatment. They were thinking that it was all a big ripoff because they were still sick.
I hope we all find what works for us but it won't be the same thing for everyone, I think that's why there is so much experimenting with these different treatments.
I must say though that the cost of AI really isn't expensive compared to what people can spend on doctor's visits & antibiotics.
I'm still waiting to see more results before I decide to try this. Thanks to everyone sharing your results.
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Has anyone had a test where every single area is blocked (not normal limits)? I read the report, but to me it's pure mumbo jumbo. No one can comprehend it most likely unless you're a physicist or some real outside the box thinker.
I literally have not one normal result. Spinal blockages, bioenergtic blockages, 6-7 emotional/pyschological blockages, metals, DNA allergies to penicillium and mucor mold fungi(s), enzyme deficiencies, and more. Is this normal for all of you?
How odd is my test?
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